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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9539288" data-attributes="member: 18">Exactly.And 3rd edition humourless weirdly childish deal really showed this up so well. It was like going from colour to monochrome. A lot of the lore was just incredibly lame if you had to take it 100% seriously, because it wasn't written by someone who was taking it 100% seriously. It's too ridiculous for that.This is the whole issue with "3rd to 7th is the core of 40K!" - it ain't! Almost the Imperium core-lore is basically or literally 2nd edition or even 1st edition lore which was very much written with a degree of tongue-in-cheek. There is some later stuff that's important but most of that is either very late 7th or 8th and onwards, so back into the "good zone" of 40K.And most 40K games and so on do get this - not all of them, but for example Owlcat's recent Rogue Trader game 100% gets it, it's full of humour and silly business and stuff you can't entirely take seriously alongside (or sometimes even part of) decisions to nuke a planet or send prisoner-slaves into a mine full of genestealers or whatever.</blockquote>