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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 7682476" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>Well, right now zero books have Prestige Classes. And even if the next one has them, that's still a year at least a couple storyline adventures away. SCAG doesn't match up with Rage of Demons and a simmilar book would be accommodated with the following adventure. Even then there might not be room to fit the RP pre-reqs into every adventure, or only one Expeditions adventure per PrC making those desirable to play. </p><p></p><p>Your concern also assumed the Prestige Classes aren't good. That's still a big IF. Huge. PrC were problematic in 3e, but so was multiuclassing, new classes, new feats, monster templates, etc. But there's a good decade plus of feedback, which can used to make PrC better than 3e. The concept of a mini-class with custom mechanics representing specialized training or membership in an organization is perfectly fine design. </p><p>It's basically a subclass not associated with an individual class so any character can take it. I can imagine one for each of the five factions.</p><p>Even IF 5e embraces PrC there likely won't be the wealth of them that we saw in 5e, if only because there's fewer opportunities. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Do you DM in Adventurer's League often? Or is this just a theoretical problem? </p><p></p><p>AL is odd, but the lack of flexibility and control is inherent to Organised Play. You don't write the adventures or pick the setting. You don't choose what accessories are used, who you play with, or often even the date you play. </p><p>Ditto round robin gaming. You don't get to choose how many magic items are awarded, the setting, events, etc. </p><p>Both require surrendering some control by their very nature. If that's the game you <em>decided</em> to play you have to be somewhat accepting of not being completely in control. And that's where the choice comes in, when you opt to play that kind of game and not a different game (or no game at all). There's always a choice. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree. But the alternative is zero new options. I don't think that's a great alternative. </p><p>I'm happy with the slow rate of release. And it certainly feels easier to say "no" or allow different options in 5e than in the last couple editions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 7682476, member: 37579"] Well, right now zero books have Prestige Classes. And even if the next one has them, that's still a year at least a couple storyline adventures away. SCAG doesn't match up with Rage of Demons and a simmilar book would be accommodated with the following adventure. Even then there might not be room to fit the RP pre-reqs into every adventure, or only one Expeditions adventure per PrC making those desirable to play. Your concern also assumed the Prestige Classes aren't good. That's still a big IF. Huge. PrC were problematic in 3e, but so was multiuclassing, new classes, new feats, monster templates, etc. But there's a good decade plus of feedback, which can used to make PrC better than 3e. The concept of a mini-class with custom mechanics representing specialized training or membership in an organization is perfectly fine design. It's basically a subclass not associated with an individual class so any character can take it. I can imagine one for each of the five factions. Even IF 5e embraces PrC there likely won't be the wealth of them that we saw in 5e, if only because there's fewer opportunities. Do you DM in Adventurer's League often? Or is this just a theoretical problem? AL is odd, but the lack of flexibility and control is inherent to Organised Play. You don't write the adventures or pick the setting. You don't choose what accessories are used, who you play with, or often even the date you play. Ditto round robin gaming. You don't get to choose how many magic items are awarded, the setting, events, etc. Both require surrendering some control by their very nature. If that's the game you [I]decided[/I] to play you have to be somewhat accepting of not being completely in control. And that's where the choice comes in, when you opt to play that kind of game and not a different game (or no game at all). There's always a choice. I agree. But the alternative is zero new options. I don't think that's a great alternative. I'm happy with the slow rate of release. And it certainly feels easier to say "no" or allow different options in 5e than in the last couple editions. [/QUOTE]
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