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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Andor" data-source="post: 7682740" data-attributes="member: 1879">I think I've made it clear that YMMV so I'm not interested in having an argument, but out of curiosity could you name some of these people who made major advancements in, and were acknowledged as masters of,  fields in which they had no training, knowledge, or access to existing materials, within a few days of entering the field mind you, since the whole of my point was that expertise (to the point of representing class level abilities like spell casting or shape shifting) is not acquired in days?The fields I named btw are Knighthood, Wizardry, and the Martial Arts. The rest was an overview of an educational/professional system that taught everything from Blacksmithy to Falconry, or in the modern system Anthropologists to Nuclear Physicists. Although if you'ld like to name a Blacksmith or Physicist who was acknowledged as a skilled practitioner of the art within days of picking up a hammer, or piece of chalk for the first time I'm curious to hear those too. I think you'll find that most self-taught masters, of which there are plenty, spent rather a long time working on their craft. Mozart was considered a prodigy at the age of 5, but had already spent two solid years in training and practice to add to his remarkable native talent.</blockquote>