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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zimri" data-source="post: 1567185" data-attributes="member: 15991">I don't mind you signaling me out at all. I am rather happy that someone finally chose to. We do disagree though(geeze go figure eh) we are at least not running the numbers or scenario the same manner.My POV he is behind the commoner who didn't notice him and is unarmoured. The commoner is flatfooted/surprised so won't be getting his dex modifier if any to ac. Taking all that into account his ac is 10 Paladin BaB at 5th level straight out of the gate before any feats or modifiers is 5. The DM warned him against using his strength bonus so we have to assume he had one. I'ld assume it was greater than a +1 but for arguments sake we'll leave it at +1  So on a grapple or unarmed strike he misses on a 4. The grapple is likely the better choice (bab5 str1) with the flat of his blade he misses on (bab5 str1 subdual -4 weapon focus 1(paladin from PH lists it as the first level feat taken on both builds )) 7, to cut his head off (vindicators stated plan) I really don't know I can't find the rule for called shot to the neck. To hit and not deal subdual damage with the sword he needs a 3. That is only 1 lower than the 4 needed to initiate the grapple and the odds are in his favour during the grapple check he AUTOMATICALLY wins on a 14 or better on his side or if the perp rolls less than 7, and the perp has to beat him by 6 just to tie.All of that is moot however because honour is what he is supposed to exude and attacking from behind doesn't do that. covering a ten your old in spraying blood as the now severed head falls into her lap and the dead cold eyes stare at her and blink one last time doesn't do that, making her a witness to a CRIME of passion doesn't do that.</blockquote>

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