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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Abraxas" data-source="post: 1567522" data-attributes="member: 1266">The real problem is we don't have all the info needed. First - Why exactly did this shifty character stand out among all the others in the bar? Was it because the DM wanted him to stand out (the fact that he was a pedophile/rapist and was going to victimize his captive makes me think that this was the case).  Or, was it because the player on a whim decided to follow the shifty guy and the DM created the rest on the spot? Second - What was the room layout.  All it is described as is a storage room with no dimensions.  We don't really know if this all occurred in the surprise round (although it seems likely).  If so the only way to attack is a) be within 5 feet of the perp (in which case him not seeing the paladin seems like a DM set up) or b) the perp was within range of a charge.  a) is unlikely because unless the paladin was following the perp with his sword drawn he would have to draw his weapon and attack - drawing a weapon is a move action  or can be combined with a move action - a 5 foot step is not a move action.  So if the paladin was following the perp with sword drawn wouldn't some of the other bar patrons notice? Third - Did the paladin try to hide? We don't know. Because of the new lack of facing rules the perp should have automatically spotted the paladin - he doesn't have cover in the door way.  Fourth - In the games I've played in and DM'd this could just as well be DM talk to hide the fact that the perp is really a high level rogue in disguise, a doppleganger or some other dangerous opponent in disguise.</blockquote>

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