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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FireLance" data-source="post: 5970258" data-attributes="member: 3424">Not to mention, healing surges (basic ideas: hit point recovery as a percentage of total hit points, daily limit to the number of times you can benefit from most, but not all, methods of hit point recovery) and non-magical hit point recovery (e.g. recovering hit points after a short rest, second wind, the warlord's inspiring word) are actually quite distinct.  4e has both, but you can have one without the other*, and it seems unfair to me to blame one for the perceived shortcomings of the other. That's a whole load of other, painfully long threads, though. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />EDIT: * To elaborate: remove the ability to recover hit points after a short rest, the second wind action, and the warlord class, and you can have healing surges without non-magical hit point recovery. Every character still has healing surges, but he can only access them through magical means such as a cleric's healing word, a bard's majestic word or a magic item such as a potion of healing. Remove healing surges and you can still have a second wind mechanic (as in Star Wars Saga Edition) and non-magical hit point recovery during a short rest (as in the 5e preview, although you still need a healer's kit, and Hit Dice can be considered healing surges lite), and inspiring word can be limited on a uses per day basis (like spells and other special abilities).</blockquote>

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