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<blockquote data-quote="mamba" data-source="post: 9245779" data-attributes="member: 7034611">yes, certainly took longer to get to the KS than anticipated, whether that affected it, who knowsSotWW still made more on day one than Shadow of the Demon Lord in its full run. I understand that the KS grew since then, but it is hard to gauge what contributed how much in what way, positive or negative.ToV made over 1M. I think what this really shows is the power of being a popular youtuber.That is ok, I did not ask you to like ToV or something <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />I think ToV started out intentionally close to 5e. No idea what the final version looks like though, now that 2024 moved so little from 2014 (and imo less than expected back then), maybe they did make bigger changes to separate themselves a bit more, I sure hope so. In any case I remain interested in the 5e alternatives, the 2024 PHB is not impressing me so far.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mamba, post: 9245779, member: 7034611"] yes, certainly took longer to get to the KS than anticipated, whether that affected it, who knows SotWW still made more on day one than Shadow of the Demon Lord in its full run. I understand that the KS grew since then, but it is hard to gauge what contributed how much in what way, positive or negative. ToV made over 1M. I think what this really shows is the power of being a popular youtuber. That is ok, I did not ask you to like ToV or something ;) I think ToV started out intentionally close to 5e. No idea what the final version looks like though, now that 2024 moved so little from 2014 (and imo less than expected back then), maybe they did make bigger changes to separate themselves a bit more, I sure hope so. In any case I remain interested in the 5e alternatives, the 2024 PHB is not impressing me so far. [/QUOTE]

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