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<blockquote data-quote="RangerWickett" data-source="post: 8453369" data-attributes="member: 63"><p>If I were doing WotBS again today, I'd certainly do things differently. Heck, I was just this past summer working on a pitch for a novel trilogy to try to flesh it out more.</p><p></p><p>Please pardon the quick shotgun of ideas.</p><p></p><p>Leska could be from the border of Ragesia and Sindaire, but attended 'wizard school' or whatever in a city between Ragesia and Shahalesti, and <em>that</em> city is the one Shaaladel razes.</p><p></p><p>The idea for the elemental spirits was that they're sort of just big creatures that maybe got that big because they were originally only kinda sorta big, but they had a strong connection to one element, and then they used the energy of that element to do stuff and get bigger. (Yes, I clearly put a lot of thought into them, as you can see.)</p><p></p><p>Digging a <em>bit</em> deeper, my high school-era AD&D 2e game used the Tome of Magic rules for elementalist wizards, and one of the players was a white-haired water wizard named Victorious, which started the tradition of me having white-haired water spellcasters with names that were normal words. When 3e came out, one of the first things I 'published' was an 'elemental guardian' prestige class, which I designed for my friend so we could convert to 3e. That gave birth to a conceit about there being four elemental guardians who each had an apprentice to take over, and that they had to balance the energy of the world. (And later the idea that Toteth Topec was the first one to figure out this was necessary; he was basically the Avatar in orc form, able to use all elements.) But only the four classical elements. </p><p></p><p>I did the 'Elements of Magic Revised' book in 2004, which used more elements and set up the Life/Death/Space/Time suite, but when I started work on WotBS in 2007 I didn't include that. I drew upon it for ZEITGEIST, though. Then Toteth switched into being the guy who led the Ancient orcs to set the world's place in the cosmos.</p><p></p><p>Re: the burning sky effect and planes, WotBS used basically the default 3e cosmology where teleportation magic briefly went through the astral plane. I don't think O5E (original 5e) defined it the same way, and thus A5E (Level Up) didn't specifically say you need the astral plane to teleport. But I guess it still sorta works.</p><p></p><p>Toteth Topec is, like, the biggest unofficial link between ZEITGEIST and BURNING SKIES which Russ has said aren't the same world so wink of course they aren't. But I could totally give you the full unofficial history of the world from the dawn of time, including some kinda silly migration to justify, for instance, why we have 'white' people in both the WotBS continent and Lanjyr, and why southern Lanjyr and the Temple of Echoed Souls both have 'black' people while the southeast is sorta 'south Asian,' and Ostalin has 'east Asian.'</p><p></p><p>Anyway, it's late now. I don't have a ton of info about Sindaire at all, or Dassen pre-Steppengard. I was sorta thinking of having Sindaire be a colony of the Clergy established before the Great Malice, and then left to fend for itself. (And then WotBS occurs around the year 300, and the replacement of the Aquiline Heart triggered the break of the link to the plane Avilona.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RangerWickett, post: 8453369, member: 63"] If I were doing WotBS again today, I'd certainly do things differently. Heck, I was just this past summer working on a pitch for a novel trilogy to try to flesh it out more. Please pardon the quick shotgun of ideas. Leska could be from the border of Ragesia and Sindaire, but attended 'wizard school' or whatever in a city between Ragesia and Shahalesti, and [I]that[/I] city is the one Shaaladel razes. The idea for the elemental spirits was that they're sort of just big creatures that maybe got that big because they were originally only kinda sorta big, but they had a strong connection to one element, and then they used the energy of that element to do stuff and get bigger. (Yes, I clearly put a lot of thought into them, as you can see.) Digging a [I]bit[/I] deeper, my high school-era AD&D 2e game used the Tome of Magic rules for elementalist wizards, and one of the players was a white-haired water wizard named Victorious, which started the tradition of me having white-haired water spellcasters with names that were normal words. When 3e came out, one of the first things I 'published' was an 'elemental guardian' prestige class, which I designed for my friend so we could convert to 3e. That gave birth to a conceit about there being four elemental guardians who each had an apprentice to take over, and that they had to balance the energy of the world. (And later the idea that Toteth Topec was the first one to figure out this was necessary; he was basically the Avatar in orc form, able to use all elements.) But only the four classical elements. I did the 'Elements of Magic Revised' book in 2004, which used more elements and set up the Life/Death/Space/Time suite, but when I started work on WotBS in 2007 I didn't include that. I drew upon it for ZEITGEIST, though. Then Toteth switched into being the guy who led the Ancient orcs to set the world's place in the cosmos. Re: the burning sky effect and planes, WotBS used basically the default 3e cosmology where teleportation magic briefly went through the astral plane. I don't think O5E (original 5e) defined it the same way, and thus A5E (Level Up) didn't specifically say you need the astral plane to teleport. But I guess it still sorta works. Toteth Topec is, like, the biggest unofficial link between ZEITGEIST and BURNING SKIES which Russ has said aren't the same world so wink of course they aren't. But I could totally give you the full unofficial history of the world from the dawn of time, including some kinda silly migration to justify, for instance, why we have 'white' people in both the WotBS continent and Lanjyr, and why southern Lanjyr and the Temple of Echoed Souls both have 'black' people while the southeast is sorta 'south Asian,' and Ostalin has 'east Asian.' Anyway, it's late now. I don't have a ton of info about Sindaire at all, or Dassen pre-Steppengard. I was sorta thinking of having Sindaire be a colony of the Clergy established before the Great Malice, and then left to fend for itself. (And then WotBS occurs around the year 300, and the replacement of the Aquiline Heart triggered the break of the link to the plane Avilona.) [/QUOTE]
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