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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Anubis" data-source="post: 279120" data-attributes="member: 2358">To answer the question of how the "death's door" extensions are added up, here's a formula of sorts:Con + Level is the base . . . So let's use a Wizard with 12 Con as the example . . . At Level 1, this Wizard would live until -13 hp . . .With Toughness, you extend it by ten making it -23 . . .Upon reaching Level 15, the minimum to be able to get Dwarf's Toughness, the Wizard would live until -47 (12 Con and Level 15 make it -27, take off another 20 for the two feats) . . .By the way, all of these examples will assume a 12 Con . . .The Wizard then takes Giant's Toughness at Level 24 (remember Epic Save Bonuses count as base Save Bonuses with regard to feat prerequisites), and can now live until eeaching -66 . . .After getting Dragon's Toughness at Level 30, the Wizard now is alive until -82 . . .Here's where it gets tricky . . . Having all those feats fulfills teh requirements for Epic Toughness, which the Wizard takes at Level 33 when he gets his next feat . . . The Wizard now is alive until -95 . . .Next, the Wizard gets Improved Epic Toughness at Level 36.  This doubles whatever the range is at the time.  That means at Level 36, he lives until -196, and then at Level 37, he lives until -198 . . . Seem like a bit much?  Calculate how fast any Epic Monster can make those 198 disappear and consider . . . Then there's always Coup de Grace, of course . . .Here's the hardest part though . . . Actually not, but it might confuse some . . . Upon getting the Immortality feat, "death's door" is increased by 100 . . . That, however, is NOT doubled . . . So lets' say our Wizard gets Immortality at, say, Level 99 . . . He now lives until -422 (that is, until a Hecatoncheires splats him with fifteen attacks or a Prismatic Dragon steps on him) . . . Don't tell me that's too much, this is a Level 99 character we're talking about, remember?!  This guy could step on most GODS and without breaking a sweat . . .Anyway, that's how it works the way I've written it.  More in a moment . . .</blockquote>

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