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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Anubis" data-source="post: 279125" data-attributes="member: 2358">Okay, I can explain that . . .First off, many classes won't get hte prerequisites for these feats until they're already into Epic Levels due to the Base Fort save requirements . . . Even then, these are precious FEATS we're talkign about here . . . If one takes these feats, that's less of everything else . . .For Dragon's Toughness, only warriors will be able to get that before Level 20, and clerics, and 75 extra hp for four feats is not an unbeatable combo for those characters by any stretch of the imagination . . . Yeah, fighters have feats to spare, but for everyone else, feats are a rare commodity . . .As for power, I think many characters would wait until Epic Levels to get these feats, and would be more interested in Immortality later on if given enough time.  Wizards and the such would certainly take Toughness, and Fighters MAY spare a few feats to get up the chain a bit, but I doubt the 75-155-255 hp would come into the game before the mid-20s to be honest.What use is hp if you can't do anythign else?Anyway, I hope that explains my reasoning a bit better.Thanks for the compliments!I only hope someone other than me gets some use out of this.</blockquote>