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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 7784945" data-attributes="member: 5834"><p>The parts of 4E I despised are not in PF2. I find it is more like 5E, which did not seem like 4E either. A few elements from 4E made it into 5E, but I'm sorry to say those things seem like renamed elements of 3E/3.5 like the reaction and minor action which was the swift and immediate action. </p><p></p><p>We could argue where mechanics entered the D&D system for a while. What 4E brought to the table that I did not like is gone from 5E and PF2. </p><p></p><p>Fact is immediate actions and swift actions were part of 3E/PF. Yet I hear folks claiming that was a 4E thing and it wasn't. </p><p></p><p>4E brought encounter powers which I hated. It brought this idea of controllers, tanks, strikers, and that type of stuff I did not enjoy. The monsters didn't have spell-like abilities and were very boring to run. 5E is more like 4E in that regard. I am extremely thankful PF2 kept spell-like abilities for monsters, so they can be something other than bags of hit points with a few battle only powers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 7784945, member: 5834"] The parts of 4E I despised are not in PF2. I find it is more like 5E, which did not seem like 4E either. A few elements from 4E made it into 5E, but I'm sorry to say those things seem like renamed elements of 3E/3.5 like the reaction and minor action which was the swift and immediate action. We could argue where mechanics entered the D&D system for a while. What 4E brought to the table that I did not like is gone from 5E and PF2. Fact is immediate actions and swift actions were part of 3E/PF. Yet I hear folks claiming that was a 4E thing and it wasn't. 4E brought encounter powers which I hated. It brought this idea of controllers, tanks, strikers, and that type of stuff I did not enjoy. The monsters didn't have spell-like abilities and were very boring to run. 5E is more like 4E in that regard. I am extremely thankful PF2 kept spell-like abilities for monsters, so they can be something other than bags of hit points with a few battle only powers. [/QUOTE]
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