fallow this link please to find this fard to kill undead making mashine.
http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25030
http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25030
Heres my orcus
- Thread starter las
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Upper_Krust
Legend
Hi las! 
Interesting adaptation.
Though personally his ability scores are too high (hes averaging about 15 points per ability better than Zeus!
Also his movement speed is ridiculous. At best it should be 70ft. (I would say 60ft.)
Other than that it looks pretty good.
Lastly is the +12 insight and +12 luck bonuses a reverential nod to the Paragon Template?
Interesting adaptation.
Though personally his ability scores are too high (hes averaging about 15 points per ability better than Zeus!
Also his movement speed is ridiculous. At best it should be 70ft. (I would say 60ft.)
Other than that it looks pretty good.
Lastly is the +12 insight and +12 luck bonuses a reverential nod to the Paragon Template?
Upper_Krust
Legend
Hi las!
I don't think I am familiar with the Blooded Template?
I know the Monster of Legend Template is in Monster Manual 2 (though I don't have that book yet), I have heard a few things about it (they represent Divine Creations right?).
Philosophically* I'm not sure if either the Monster of Legend or Paragon Template should apply here but its been interesting reading your interpretation. I think someone revealed stats for Asmodeus (from the Book of Vile Darkness) not so long ago over at the WotC Message Boards and I seem to recall he was loaded with Insight bonuses and so forth. Perhaps they used the Paragon Template on a Pit Fiend to get a base idea...I'll have to go back and investigate.
*If you don't mind getting all 'high-brow' for a minute!
las said:
I don't think I am familiar with the Blooded Template?
I know the Monster of Legend Template is in Monster Manual 2 (though I don't have that book yet), I have heard a few things about it (they represent Divine Creations right?).
Philosophically* I'm not sure if either the Monster of Legend or Paragon Template should apply here but its been interesting reading your interpretation. I think someone revealed stats for Asmodeus (from the Book of Vile Darkness) not so long ago over at the WotC Message Boards and I seem to recall he was loaded with Insight bonuses and so forth. Perhaps they used the Paragon Template on a Pit Fiend to get a base idea...I'll have to go back and investigate.
*If you don't mind getting all 'high-brow' for a minute!
The Forsaken One
Explorer
He most vertainly deserves the paragorn template and the blooded, nice take on it and it's appropriate imo.
He's an exeptional demon to say the least and up there with the best of his kind.
He's an exeptional demon to say the least and up there with the best of his kind.
Upper_Krust
Legend
Hi there!
But Orcus isn't a 'race' or 'subrace'; hes unique - how can you have a paragon unique being!? It doesn't make much sense as I see it.
The Forsaken One said:
But Orcus isn't a 'race' or 'subrace'; hes unique - how can you have a paragon unique being!? It doesn't make much sense as I see it.
