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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ren1999" data-source="post: 6341206" data-attributes="member: 85179">There are contradictions in the Basic Rules because of lack of editing. Some say a +5 to the spell attack. I also found this in the Skills rules. If a character has the Perception skill, it is a +5 to the passive perception check. Not so.physical attacks1d20+ability modifier+proficiency bonus versus ACspell attacks1d20+ability modifier+proficiency bonus versus ACspell Difficulty Class (usually when targets of the spell are dodging)DC8+ability modifier+proficiency bonus versus the 1d20+ability modifier+proficiency bonus applied to the save if applicable of the targetThe DC went from 10 to 8 so that the spell caster could add +2 with his or her holy symbol or arcane focus item. But I see very little in the Basic Rules, unless I just skipped over it.Nothing about a +5 unless there is advantage.</blockquote>