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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 7743654" data-attributes="member: 83242">I believe that is highly unlikely.&nbsp; Just because they are listed as average doesn't mean a creature with above average HP would have the same CR as an average monster.&nbsp; I find that logic very questionable.&nbsp; Are you suggesting changing the HP of an Ancient red dragon from 546 to 812 doesn't make it more challenging?&nbsp; That it shouldn't change the CR?&nbsp; If a group is challenged by CR 24 average red dragon, wouldn't be more challenged by the same dragon, but with 49% more hit points?&nbsp; Now, all I think is needed is a little description of how dialing up or down the HP affect the CR of the monster or the challenge of the encounter (however you want to track it).I don't know if you have made a lot of custom monsters or not, but I have posted over 200 on these boards.&nbsp; And I have made more.&nbsp; I am very familiar with the DMG monster creation guidelines, and with checking the CR of &quot;official&quot; WotC publications.&nbsp; And they have a very high hit rate for accuracy against the DMG (usually within .5 CR +/-).&nbsp; The major area where you get some questions is when it comes to spellcasters.&nbsp; The DMG doesn't have much guidance on how to handle non-damage spells, so we don't know the best method for how these affect CR.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 7743654, member: 83242"] I believe that is highly unlikely. Just because they are listed as average doesn't mean a creature with above average HP would have the same CR as an average monster. I find that logic very questionable. Are you suggesting changing the HP of an Ancient red dragon from 546 to 812 doesn't make it more challenging? That it shouldn't change the CR? If a group is challenged by CR 24 average red dragon, wouldn't be more challenged by the same dragon, but with 49% more hit points? Now, all I think is needed is a little description of how dialing up or down the HP affect the CR of the monster [B][U]or[/U][/B] the challenge of the encounter (however you want to track it). I don't know if you have made a lot of custom monsters or not, but I have posted over 200 on these boards. And I have made more. I am very familiar with the DMG monster creation guidelines, and with checking the CR of "official" WotC publications. And they have a very high hit rate for accuracy against the DMG (usually within .5 CR +/-). The major area where you get some questions is when it comes to spellcasters. The DMG doesn't have much guidance on how to handle non-damage spells, so we don't know the best method for how these affect CR. [/QUOTE]

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