Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Here's the cover of INCIDENT AT ABSALOM STATION, the first adventure in Starfinder's DEAD SUNS AP!
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="ArchfiendBobbie" data-source="post: 7714463" data-attributes="member: 6867728"><p>Brevity is often mistaken for failed wit. That is because the phrase "brevity is the soul of wit" is a fallacy, but one that pervades societal subconscious. Thus, it causes miscommunications.</p><p></p><p>There... is actually the theory that much of what they are doing with Starfinder is precisely because of the bloat Pathfinder has suffered, to the point there are questions in parts of the Pathfinder fanbase on if the game can be salvaged for another edition. I saw some posts on Paizo's own boards, before life dragged me away from gaming for awhile, suggesting the idea of Starfinder may be based on answering that very question... or at least exploring on if they have an alternative product line to explore for replacing Pathfinder. I do know the company itself has indicated that while sales are relatively good, even long before 5E came out Paizo was not making enough money off PDFs to rely on them as a source of profit. This was stated as the reason why they do not offer PDF-only subscriptions. And that was during the time Pathfinder was dominant.</p><p></p><p>There's also the fact I've seen the setting referenced to frequently as simply impossible to get into. There's simply too much to read, which potentially cripples two of their regularly-released product lines outside of long-term customers (some of whom have also begun to flag, due to bloat weariness).</p><p></p><p>Pretty much, I think they were already facing that problem, but coasting along on popularity while trying to fix it without abandoning their primary product line; that explains their disastrous effort to diversify into gaming, and many of the missteps made in that area, as well as their current efforts in Starfinder. I don't think they expected the explosive growth of 5E, especially given how much of a disaster 4E was by comparison to Pathfinder, and I wouldn't be surprised if the treatment of APs for both Pathfinder and Starfinder isn't resulting from an unexpected profit crunch that makes them simply unable to hire more people.</p><p></p><p>That's not to say that Paizo is down and out yet. Let's see how Starfinder does first.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ArchfiendBobbie, post: 7714463, member: 6867728"] Brevity is often mistaken for failed wit. That is because the phrase "brevity is the soul of wit" is a fallacy, but one that pervades societal subconscious. Thus, it causes miscommunications. There... is actually the theory that much of what they are doing with Starfinder is precisely because of the bloat Pathfinder has suffered, to the point there are questions in parts of the Pathfinder fanbase on if the game can be salvaged for another edition. I saw some posts on Paizo's own boards, before life dragged me away from gaming for awhile, suggesting the idea of Starfinder may be based on answering that very question... or at least exploring on if they have an alternative product line to explore for replacing Pathfinder. I do know the company itself has indicated that while sales are relatively good, even long before 5E came out Paizo was not making enough money off PDFs to rely on them as a source of profit. This was stated as the reason why they do not offer PDF-only subscriptions. And that was during the time Pathfinder was dominant. There's also the fact I've seen the setting referenced to frequently as simply impossible to get into. There's simply too much to read, which potentially cripples two of their regularly-released product lines outside of long-term customers (some of whom have also begun to flag, due to bloat weariness). Pretty much, I think they were already facing that problem, but coasting along on popularity while trying to fix it without abandoning their primary product line; that explains their disastrous effort to diversify into gaming, and many of the missteps made in that area, as well as their current efforts in Starfinder. I don't think they expected the explosive growth of 5E, especially given how much of a disaster 4E was by comparison to Pathfinder, and I wouldn't be surprised if the treatment of APs for both Pathfinder and Starfinder isn't resulting from an unexpected profit crunch that makes them simply unable to hire more people. That's not to say that Paizo is down and out yet. Let's see how Starfinder does first. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Here's the cover of INCIDENT AT ABSALOM STATION, the first adventure in Starfinder's DEAD SUNS AP!
Top