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<blockquote data-quote="DM-Rocco" data-source="post: 2891660" data-attributes="member: 14451">I understand what you are saying.I stopped playing during the whole &quot;fun purging&quot; of second edition and was forced by friends to check out 3.0.I both love and hate the new editions.&nbsp; Even if you just limit yourself to the three core books, it is very hard and time consuming to make a character.&nbsp; I love the idea of feats, but there are over 10,000 feats to chose from if you take them from every source.&nbsp; Skills are nice, but you are a much weaker rogue in some respects cause in order to cover all the things you could do as a rogue in 1st edition, you need like 14 skill points a level, and that just covers everything you had in the older editions, like move silently and stuff.Now, a friend of mine just started a game, I just got done making a first level character.&nbsp; He wanted to give us options so he opened the character creation process to all WOTC books.Think about that.&nbsp; That is a lot of books.&nbsp; Tons of feats, waaaaay too many feats.&nbsp; It also opens tons of PrC classes.&nbsp; I felt obligated to post many different threads on ENWorld in the last few weeks just to make sure I didn't miss something.&nbsp; Specially cause there are a lot of choices that you can only make at first level.I am seriously thinking of starting a AD&amp;D game back up, just cause things are simple and the rules don't need thousands of pages of errata to play. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="DM-Rocco, post: 2891660, member: 14451"] I understand what you are saying. I stopped playing during the whole "fun purging" of second edition and was forced by friends to check out 3.0. I both love and hate the new editions. Even if you just limit yourself to the three core books, it is very hard and time consuming to make a character. I love the idea of feats, but there are over 10,000 feats to chose from if you take them from every source. Skills are nice, but you are a much weaker rogue in some respects cause in order to cover all the things you could do as a rogue in 1st edition, you need like 14 skill points a level, and that just covers everything you had in the older editions, like move silently and stuff. Now, a friend of mine just started a game, I just got done making a first level character. He wanted to give us options so he opened the character creation process to all WOTC books. Think about that. That is a lot of books. Tons of feats, waaaaay too many feats. It also opens tons of PrC classes. I felt obligated to post many different threads on ENWorld in the last few weeks just to make sure I didn't miss something. Specially cause there are a lot of choices that you can only make at first level. I am seriously thinking of starting a AD&D game back up, just cause things are simple and the rules don't need thousands of pages of errata to play. ;) :) :D [/QUOTE]

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