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<blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 7967704">No, you are taking something that is kind of greyish and arguing that it IS black &amp; white.Picture a spectrum:On one end of the spectrum is that psionics is a subsystem totally independent of any class.&nbsp; It's something you can sprinkle onto any character, and it's exactly the same for all of them.On the other end of the spectrum, psionics is a separate class.&nbsp; You MUST take this class in order to have psionics.&nbsp; There is no psionics as part of any other class, unless you subclass into the psionics class.Now....where on the spectrum is 1e?&nbsp; Where on the spectrum is the Mystic?&nbsp; Where on the spectrum is this latest version?If, as you claim, the latest version is the diametric opposite of 1e, where does that leave the Mystic?&nbsp; 'Cause you can't get much further away than the diametric opposite.&nbsp; So is the Mystic more like 1e than the latest UA is?Analogies are such a minefield here, but I'll try:Me: &quot;I like Grapefruit better than Bananas, because they are more like Oranges.&quot;You: &quot;WHAT!?!?!&nbsp; Grapefruit are yellow and bitter, Oranges are orange and sweet.&nbsp; And smaller.&nbsp; They are literally nothing alike.&nbsp; The exact opposites of each other, in fact.&quot;Me: &quot;....wtf?....&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Guest 6801328, post: 7967704"] No, you are taking something that is kind of greyish and arguing that it IS black & white. Picture a spectrum: On one end of the spectrum is that psionics is a subsystem totally independent of any class. It's something you can sprinkle onto any character, and it's exactly the same for all of them. On the other end of the spectrum, psionics is a separate class. You MUST take this class in order to have psionics. There is no psionics as part of any other class, unless you subclass into the psionics class. Now....where on the spectrum is 1e? Where on the spectrum is the Mystic? Where on the spectrum is this latest version? If, as you claim, the latest version is the diametric opposite of 1e, where does that leave the Mystic? 'Cause you can't get much further away than the diametric opposite. So is the Mystic more like 1e than the latest UA is? Analogies are such a minefield here, but I'll try: Me: "I like Grapefruit better than Bananas, because they are more like Oranges." You: "WHAT!?!?! Grapefruit are yellow and bitter, Oranges are orange and sweet. And smaller. They are literally nothing alike. The exact opposites of each other, in fact." Me: "....wtf?...." [/QUOTE]

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