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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7968745" data-attributes="member: 6801228">But I'm not asking for ideas that you won't support. We have dozens of Psionic threads, and most of them devolve into shouting matches about nothing. I want to have a conversation that matters. So, you presented ideas for the class. I pointed out that most of those abilities are currently in the UA. Do you like them? Do they work the way you want them to work for what you are imagining? Would you prefer that the Psion, for example, gets to add their Intelligence mod to any roll of their Psi Die. Let's stop shouting about how things were done three decades ago and focus on "does what we have look close enough to what we are happy with?" If we make a full psion that as a caster, and you want that damage reduction ability, is the Psy Knights ability what you would want? Something different? Sure, but in the absence specifics, you take the general rule. We do not have specifics for Psionics interacting with Counterspell. We do know that there are two ways to not be counterspelled. 1) Be out of range 2) do not have VSM components. You are arguing for 2 to apply to psionic abilities, so do not be surprised if people then say, per the rules we have now that means they can't be counterspelled. We don't have exceptions for that now, and you would need to explain why it is an exception and why that exception would not apply to a sorcerer's subtle spell which does the exact same thing, but would be unable to be counterspelled.There are dozens of threads Max, with dozens of posters. You are going to have to repeat yourself, you are going to have to elaborate on your positions. Because there is too much going on for everyone to follow everything.</blockquote>

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