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<blockquote data-quote="Perun" data-source="post: 7971009" data-attributes="member: 6037"><p>I would actually love if 5E psionics brought back psionic combat, but I won't hold my breath. I think it would be considered too complex for the game <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /></p><p></p><p>Magic duels (or combat) is also something I've been hoping for since 3e was announced, but no such luck. The 3e counterspelling and 5E <em>counterspell</em> spell give some options, but I'd prefer something more memorable.</p><p></p><p>As for skills and feats for using psionic powers.. I could see ti working, but I don't think the designers will go for that. Then again, what do I know... </p><p></p><p>Where I find the system tricky is you need to roll a skill or ability check to see if the skill/power actually works, and you can fail right there. If you also require an attack roll or a save, that's another opportunity for the power to fail. I can't check at the moment, but I think there are very few spells in the game that require, for example, both an attack roll and a saving throw. </p><p></p><p>So, if you make a system where only the psion rolls for effect (say, a <em>charm person</em>-like power), and don't let the target have any rolls, it would probably be accepted really well by the players -- as success or failure is fully in their hands; however if the DM used a psionic NPC using those same powers, the players would likely feel cheated, for the same reason -- they, as the target, have no ability to avoid the effect. </p><p></p><p>This is just the first thing that came to mind. It might be an issue, or not. Just the way I see things <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Perun, post: 7971009, member: 6037"] I would actually love if 5E psionics brought back psionic combat, but I won't hold my breath. I think it would be considered too complex for the game :P Magic duels (or combat) is also something I've been hoping for since 3e was announced, but no such luck. The 3e counterspelling and 5E [I]counterspell[/I] spell give some options, but I'd prefer something more memorable. As for skills and feats for using psionic powers.. I could see ti working, but I don't think the designers will go for that. Then again, what do I know... Where I find the system tricky is you need to roll a skill or ability check to see if the skill/power actually works, and you can fail right there. If you also require an attack roll or a save, that's another opportunity for the power to fail. I can't check at the moment, but I think there are very few spells in the game that require, for example, both an attack roll and a saving throw. So, if you make a system where only the psion rolls for effect (say, a [I]charm person[/I]-like power), and don't let the target have any rolls, it would probably be accepted really well by the players -- as success or failure is fully in their hands; however if the DM used a psionic NPC using those same powers, the players would likely feel cheated, for the same reason -- they, as the target, have no ability to avoid the effect. This is just the first thing that came to mind. It might be an issue, or not. Just the way I see things :) [/QUOTE]
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