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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 2193501" data-attributes="member: 172">Well, I don't have 5th edition revised, but I have 5th edition.The basic conventions of the game don't change, so if you had trouble with combat speed in fourth, you still will.There were many refinements and improvements to the various powes and abilities, and I like that the put common examples in the sidebars. Some of the power and advantage changes are contraversial, though.I don't think the skill scale changed much.One thing I didn't like is that they totally nerfed the package deal rules. I know they needed some work, but IMO they sort of threw the baby out with the bathwater.M&M is a bit more lightweight and faster that Hero. But if you are used to the precision modeling of powers in Hero, you might see some of M&M's approaches as shortcuts and abstractions. One of the central attributes of buying powers in M&M is that every power can be grouped, and the benefit of doing so is highly advantageous, so most do.</blockquote>