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<blockquote data-quote="LightPhoenix" data-source="post: 4574753" data-attributes="member: 115"><p>If by "throw down the gauntlet," you mean mirror my thoughts on the comic influence... then yes. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think it goes all the way back to the beginning.</p><p></p><p>My personal speculation is that no one writing for Heroes actually thought the show would be a hit. They mapped out a whole season, but beyond that never gave it serious thought. Of course, the show became a huge hit, and they've been scrambling to figure out what they're doing ever since. We get rehashed stories because they literally never bothered to think of what came next.</p><p></p><p>Kring's original plan was for characters to take a backseat or leave altogether once their story was done. The first season was mapped out with this in mind. Again, the show became a hit, and now you had to keep on main characters you might have gotten rid off initially. Again, they had to scramble to retool the show to focus around the big four (Claire/Peter/Nathan/Hiro). That's why a character like Suresh gets marginalized to such a high degree - he wasn't an overly popular character. (As an aside, that's also why I really feel bad for Ramamurthy.)</p><p></p><p>I'm also going to say that I don't think they really understand what made season one such a hit. In the second season, they thought it was the origin story people wanted, so they did more of that. This season feels to me like they get people want a story with an arc. What they don't seem to understand people don't want, in essense, a comic book soap opera. This goes to what Steel Wind said in his post. They just want a story on par with the first season.</p><p></p><p>Ironically, for all that I did not like season two, I think perhaps if it had a chance to play out fully, it would have been more cohesive and people would like it more. I liken it to season two of Lost; individually episodes were meh, but if you watch the entire season it's actually decent.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LightPhoenix, post: 4574753, member: 115"] If by "throw down the gauntlet," you mean mirror my thoughts on the comic influence... then yes. :p I think it goes all the way back to the beginning. My personal speculation is that no one writing for Heroes actually thought the show would be a hit. They mapped out a whole season, but beyond that never gave it serious thought. Of course, the show became a huge hit, and they've been scrambling to figure out what they're doing ever since. We get rehashed stories because they literally never bothered to think of what came next. Kring's original plan was for characters to take a backseat or leave altogether once their story was done. The first season was mapped out with this in mind. Again, the show became a hit, and now you had to keep on main characters you might have gotten rid off initially. Again, they had to scramble to retool the show to focus around the big four (Claire/Peter/Nathan/Hiro). That's why a character like Suresh gets marginalized to such a high degree - he wasn't an overly popular character. (As an aside, that's also why I really feel bad for Ramamurthy.) I'm also going to say that I don't think they really understand what made season one such a hit. In the second season, they thought it was the origin story people wanted, so they did more of that. This season feels to me like they get people want a story with an arc. What they don't seem to understand people don't want, in essense, a comic book soap opera. This goes to what Steel Wind said in his post. They just want a story on par with the first season. Ironically, for all that I did not like season two, I think perhaps if it had a chance to play out fully, it would have been more cohesive and people would like it more. I liken it to season two of Lost; individually episodes were meh, but if you watch the entire season it's actually decent. [/QUOTE]
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