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<blockquote data-quote="swordsmasher" data-source="post: 2264872" data-attributes="member: 21461"><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Flipping through it does not mean "Look at feats, Look at Prestige classes, Formulate Opinion."</p><p></p><p>Flipping through it means I read a good 1/3rd of the book to get the books theme and to see if it worked for me. and like i said, most of it did not. This may be because i am ex-military myself and a lot of the book was No Duh stuff for me; but really most of the book could be gleaned from watching the discovery channel or reading some dragonlance novels.</p><p></p><p>I liked the artwork a lot.</p><p></p><p>really, 4/5 isn't that bad of a score for me. Maybe if the book had a little more, i honestly think it was only missing a few things:</p><p></p><p>A couple more feats that don't suck and could actually do something; even some tactical feats or teamwork feats. Come one! i was in a military strike unit, and i can honestly say that together we could kick major donkey-behind, while one of us alone wouldn't complete even 10% of what we did together. Hoorah!</p><p></p><p>Better prestige classes, and maybe a few more. What, no War Wizard? No Assassin type that is designed to determine the force's leader and take him out! No Propaganda Bard types to spread disorder among the enemy's camp? No Dwarven Spotter's whose goal is to determine the ebnemy forces strong points (including units and fortifications)?</p><p></p><p>Another thing that turned me off: How many darn times do we need to see how best to lob a fireball at the enemy? When are we going to see: This is how you fight a war with NO MAGIC-USERS!</p><p></p><p>As for 8 enemies at a time. Pshaw. My 8 man firing team took out a unit of at least 30 back in Bosnia. and we lost ONE man and he was shot in the leg while we were deploying. </p><p></p><p>What I also would have liked to see would maybe be some character concepts:</p><p></p><p>Kill Crazy: You go overboard during combat. You live to fight, and are at home behind the crossbow or the greataxe. You will not stop fighting until ordered (at least twice) to do so, or all of the enemy unit's personnel are decimated.</p><p></p><p>Scarred Veteran: You have survived the horrors of war and been drummed out of the service because of your mental instability. You suffer from nightmares constantly, and jump at sudden noises and movement. You tend to have a pessimistec outlook on life, and seem to always remember your life better before you joined the military. In life, you often find yourself attracted to those people you knew before the military, ie past girlfriends, old Taverns you used to frequent. At times, you even find yourself hating what you did or have become, and can even blame others around you for your problems.</p><p></p><p>Supply Wizard: If it needs to be found, you can get it. No matter where your unit has been deployed to. If the Sarge needs a pair of brass d20's for his gaming group, somehow you always manage to find platinum d20's for his gaming group.</p><p></p><p>Career Soldier: You were a poor commoner before the life of the soldier showed you that you could belong to something larger than yourself. Whererver you go and whatever your unit accomplishes, you feel like you are making a difference in the world. You'll never quit, until old age takes you.</p><p></p><p>Buffoon: You joined because some friends did or because you had nothing better to do. Now you keep other soldiers around you smiling and happy because of your pranks or your jokes. Sometimes this gets you into trouble, but that's okay. Only sometimes at night when you are alone and wondering why no one understands you do you really get serious.</p><p></p><p>Melancholy: You used to be a soldier, then your unit was destroyed, or you were forced into retirement. Life just hasn't been the same. You go from job to job, wishing you were back in the serice, and remembering the good old days. At times you drink yourself senseless, or carouse with women to forget your sorrows. Then along comes the young upstart in dire need of training. Could he be your salvation?</p><p></p><p>Military Meathead: You think you are the Drill Instructor. During training, you were his eyes and ears when he was off duty. Other soldiers despise you for what you are (unless they too are Meatheads). Everything must be perfect and well ordered. Your armor is always shining, your sword is always sharpened and well oiled. Discipline and order are paramount to your survival. While others may not trust you or even want to be around you, you know that when inspections come around, you could be thier best friend.</p><p></p><p>There could be a lot more! Any veteran's or active duty out there think of any more? I'd love to see some!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="swordsmasher, post: 2264872, member: 21461"] ;) Flipping through it does not mean "Look at feats, Look at Prestige classes, Formulate Opinion." Flipping through it means I read a good 1/3rd of the book to get the books theme and to see if it worked for me. and like i said, most of it did not. This may be because i am ex-military myself and a lot of the book was No Duh stuff for me; but really most of the book could be gleaned from watching the discovery channel or reading some dragonlance novels. I liked the artwork a lot. really, 4/5 isn't that bad of a score for me. Maybe if the book had a little more, i honestly think it was only missing a few things: A couple more feats that don't suck and could actually do something; even some tactical feats or teamwork feats. Come one! i was in a military strike unit, and i can honestly say that together we could kick major donkey-behind, while one of us alone wouldn't complete even 10% of what we did together. Hoorah! Better prestige classes, and maybe a few more. What, no War Wizard? No Assassin type that is designed to determine the force's leader and take him out! No Propaganda Bard types to spread disorder among the enemy's camp? No Dwarven Spotter's whose goal is to determine the ebnemy forces strong points (including units and fortifications)? Another thing that turned me off: How many darn times do we need to see how best to lob a fireball at the enemy? When are we going to see: This is how you fight a war with NO MAGIC-USERS! As for 8 enemies at a time. Pshaw. My 8 man firing team took out a unit of at least 30 back in Bosnia. and we lost ONE man and he was shot in the leg while we were deploying. What I also would have liked to see would maybe be some character concepts: Kill Crazy: You go overboard during combat. You live to fight, and are at home behind the crossbow or the greataxe. You will not stop fighting until ordered (at least twice) to do so, or all of the enemy unit's personnel are decimated. Scarred Veteran: You have survived the horrors of war and been drummed out of the service because of your mental instability. You suffer from nightmares constantly, and jump at sudden noises and movement. You tend to have a pessimistec outlook on life, and seem to always remember your life better before you joined the military. In life, you often find yourself attracted to those people you knew before the military, ie past girlfriends, old Taverns you used to frequent. At times, you even find yourself hating what you did or have become, and can even blame others around you for your problems. Supply Wizard: If it needs to be found, you can get it. No matter where your unit has been deployed to. If the Sarge needs a pair of brass d20's for his gaming group, somehow you always manage to find platinum d20's for his gaming group. Career Soldier: You were a poor commoner before the life of the soldier showed you that you could belong to something larger than yourself. Whererver you go and whatever your unit accomplishes, you feel like you are making a difference in the world. You'll never quit, until old age takes you. Buffoon: You joined because some friends did or because you had nothing better to do. Now you keep other soldiers around you smiling and happy because of your pranks or your jokes. Sometimes this gets you into trouble, but that's okay. Only sometimes at night when you are alone and wondering why no one understands you do you really get serious. Melancholy: You used to be a soldier, then your unit was destroyed, or you were forced into retirement. Life just hasn't been the same. You go from job to job, wishing you were back in the serice, and remembering the good old days. At times you drink yourself senseless, or carouse with women to forget your sorrows. Then along comes the young upstart in dire need of training. Could he be your salvation? Military Meathead: You think you are the Drill Instructor. During training, you were his eyes and ears when he was off duty. Other soldiers despise you for what you are (unless they too are Meatheads). Everything must be perfect and well ordered. Your armor is always shining, your sword is always sharpened and well oiled. Discipline and order are paramount to your survival. While others may not trust you or even want to be around you, you know that when inspections come around, you could be thier best friend. There could be a lot more! Any veteran's or active duty out there think of any more? I'd love to see some! [/QUOTE]
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