Heroes of Shadow and Class Compendium info in the CB

[Kelvor Ravenstar]

For those of you who don't have Heroes of Shadow yet and have a DDI subscription, the information from the book is now in the online Character Builder.

Also, it looks to me like the updates from the Class Compendium articles that have been released so far were included as well, as the PHB fighter is now Fighter (Weaponmaster).

 

[Tony Vargas]

This may be a trivial distinction, but I've heard some 'Insiders' say that the Fighter is now the Weaponmanster (Fighter) and others say it's the Fighter (Weaponmanster).

How does CB actually note the class of a PH1 fighter, now?

Also, is the Weaponmaster available for default new character builds, or is it still 'custom?'

 

[WalterKovacs]

As a note, there are also magic items (so far I've seen a couple ki foci) in the builder that are sourced to the Heroes of Shadow book, despite not being in that book (unlss those pages were just missing from mine).

As for the default new character, not only does it not have the weaponmaster (Fighter), it does not have Executioner (Assassin), Vampire, Blackguard (Paladin), or even Death domain for warpriest, necromacy or nethermancy (or pyromancy) schools for mages, or gloom/star pact for hexblade. It's still only HotFK/HotFL stuff. Custom is pretty much the way to go to build anything else.

Also, while it is listed as Weaponmaster (Fighter) and Marshall (Warlord), there position in the list is where they used to be (i.e. Weaponmaster is between Cavalier and Knight, Marshall is between Shaman and Warpriest ... so they haven't been put in alphabetical order yet).

EDIT:

The magic items are all ki foci, just did a quick Compendium check. The stuff not in the book are:

Envenomed Ki Focus: Gives extra damage to poison attacks using the ki focus
Final Sleep Ki Focus: This was shown elsewhere, gives free shift when you kill somthing
Shadow Master Ki Focus: Gives extra damage when you attack a target you are hidden from
Bloodthirsty Ki Focus: Gives extra damage when your target is bloodied
Devestating Ki Focus: Treat 1 and 2 on damage dice as 3 ...

Also, the Assassin's poisons are all items. Which does mean if you take the implement ranged attack ones ... the builder doesn't calculate any of the numbers for you.

 

[Aegeri]

Those are being published in a dragon article shortly. The dragon article always looked suspiciously like cut book content and I think this confirms that.

 

[Bagpuss]

This may be a trivial distinction, but I've heard some 'Insiders' say that the Fighter is now the Weaponmanster (Fighter) and others say it's the Fighter (Weaponmanster).

I loaded up the character builder and my old fighter character is now listed in the character index as a Weaponmaster, no mention of fighter until you load him up then it is listed as Weaponmaster (Fighter).

How does CB actually note the class of a PH1 fighter, now?

If you build a new one it is Weaponmaster (Fighter) in the selection screen.

On the character sheet there is no mention of Fighter at all it is just Weaponmaster.

Also, is the Weaponmaster available for default new character builds, or is it still 'custom?'

The default character builds are all essentials either for Encounters or Heroes of Shadow characters.

But copy to clipboard is back! Is it me or have they forgotten to include what level the character is or its name?

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Human, Weaponmaster
Fighter Option: Combat Superiority
Fighter Talents Option: One-handed Weapon Talent
Human Power Selection Option: Bonus At-Will Power
Muscle (+2 to Intimidate)

FINAL ABILITY SCORES
STR 19, CON 14, DEX 13, INT 8, WIS 14, CHA 12

STARTING ABILITY SCORES
STR 16, CON 13, DEX 13, INT 8, WIS 14, CHA 12


AC: 20 Fort: 19 Ref: 14 Will: 15
HP: 53 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 13

TRAINED SKILLS
Athletics +11, Endurance +9, Intimidate +10, Streetwise +8

UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +3, Arcana +1, Bluff +3, Diplomacy +3, Dungeoneering +4, Heal +4, History +1, Insight +4, Nature +4, Perception +4, Religion +1, Stealth +3, Thievery +3

POWERS
Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack
Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack
Fighter Attack: Combat Challenge
Fighter Attack 1: Shield Feint
Fighter Attack 1: Tide of Iron
Fighter Attack 1: Knockdown Assault
Fighter Attack 1: Spinning Sweep
Fighter Attack 1: Driving Attack
Endurance Utility 2: Inspiring Fortitude
Fighter Attack 3: Bull Charge
Fighter Attack 5: Crashing Assault

FEATS
Level 1: Headsman's Chop
Level 1: Battering Shield
Level 2: Encouraging Shield
Level 4: Action Surge

ITEMS
Handaxe
Adventurer's Kit
Iron Armbands of Power (heroic tier) x1
Chainreach Battleaxe +1 x1
Black Iron Scale Armor +1 x1
Shield of Deflection Heavy Shield (heroic tier)
Grappling Hook
Hammer
Pitons
Mace
====== End ======

 

[MerricB]

Characters shouldn't survive long enough to have names!

Cheers!

 

[Neonchameleon]

But copy to clipboard is back! Is it me or have they forgotten to include what level the character is or its name?

Interesting. They've changed the format from the old character builder.

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And even that is different. Making the OCB incompatable must be intentional. (Although I can't help wondering how long it will take CBLoader to catch up).