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<blockquote data-quote="Incenjucar" data-source="post: 5576335" data-attributes="member: 6182"><p>The gripe with essentials design is that it has a strongly trends toward fewer options per class, and/or design which is significantly weaker than previous classes were on release, and/or that it supports or rehashes things that don't really need support or rehashing.</p><p></p><p>If essentials/+ classes were more often released with as many options, equal power, and with equally unique concepts as previous classes, they would get much less flak. Not zero flak, because there is never zero flak, but much less. Also note that being able to take powers from previously-released classes will never be given the same weight as introducing new powers along with the class at the same rate they were released with new builds, whether or not that is fair.</p><p></p><p>Compare this with, say, ardents. Many people just don't care for ardents, but most negative comments about it are "it's just an emotional warlord!" When the biggest complaint about something stems from people simply lacking imagination, you're doing something right.</p><p></p><p>--</p><p></p><p>That all said, I expect that this book will more or less be HoS 2, and if so, I will not purchase it. However, I have seen many signs that WotC is taking action on some of the recent feedback, so I am optimistic about Elemental Heroes. WotC has a lot of smart folk - they can learn.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Incenjucar, post: 5576335, member: 6182"] The gripe with essentials design is that it has a strongly trends toward fewer options per class, and/or design which is significantly weaker than previous classes were on release, and/or that it supports or rehashes things that don't really need support or rehashing. If essentials/+ classes were more often released with as many options, equal power, and with equally unique concepts as previous classes, they would get much less flak. Not zero flak, because there is never zero flak, but much less. Also note that being able to take powers from previously-released classes will never be given the same weight as introducing new powers along with the class at the same rate they were released with new builds, whether or not that is fair. Compare this with, say, ardents. Many people just don't care for ardents, but most negative comments about it are "it's just an emotional warlord!" When the biggest complaint about something stems from people simply lacking imagination, you're doing something right. -- That all said, I expect that this book will more or less be HoS 2, and if so, I will not purchase it. However, I have seen many signs that WotC is taking action on some of the recent feedback, so I am optimistic about Elemental Heroes. WotC has a lot of smart folk - they can learn. [/QUOTE]
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