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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5576537" data-attributes="member: 82106">It isn't mechanical space I'm talking about, it is CONCEPTUAL space. I'm perfectly happy to believe there are some concepts that I haven't thought of or heard about, and no doubt that would be true of people at WotC as well perhaps. OTOH if someone expects that a feywild themed book should be filled with runepriest builds or something like that because mechanically that class is underserved I'm just frankly dumbfounded. If there's a good concept then it should be implemented, period. I don't care if there 8,642 builds of wizard if # 8643 works and fills a valid conceptual space then that's what should exist. I could give a rat's behind what class that concept is part of, I only care about the concept and that it works in play. I'm not out there to keep score between the different classes. There's no 'build balance' that has to be maintained such that things get spread around between different classes. I think there's been a severe loss of perspective here.I want to see CONCEPTS appropriate to the LAND OF FAIRY in the book on that subject, period, end of report. As I said before, some people might have been pleased to see a different order of release. Frankly I'm not one of them. D&D has neglected doing even half decent support on the Fey for 30+ years and it is about time, and FAR more classic a concept than almost anything else I can imagine them working on. I will say it again too, there's nothing wrong with and I certainly support the notion of adding or tweaking some mechanics here and there to make some of the existing stuff more practically useful, that would be great. The thing is there's this one last great untapped conceptual space and I think WotC would really like to address that first. They also may feel that certain things they did before just aren't WORTH improving when they can put the same effort into something considerably better. Personally this is the way I see the Seeker, it just isn't worth the effort. There's nothing special there. Runepriest OTOH has some conceptual merit and is mechanically solid, if a bit fiddly. There are a few other ones that could be fixed with just a very small amount of work like Ruthless Ruffian, Swarm Druid, or apparently Vampires at higher levels. Some would argue a few others, though I rather think AoE and AoA swordmages are just bad tactical concepts that will never work. That is a point though, your assessment of what is fixable and what it takes to support it better may vary considerably from say Mike Mearls'.And again, these projects take a considerable amount of time to execute. Have you not listened to anything Klaus has said for instance? HoS material was mostly designed BEFORE ESSENTIALS WAS EVEN RELEASED and without any reference to it. Most book projects like this are around 2 year lead time projects. So no, I don't think you are actually appreciating how these things fall out. For instance I'd imagine there was a plan to do a DP2 that would have picked up added options for the runepriest. That was obviously decided against. That means basically it goes back to the start of a TWO YEAR cycle. That's just reality. Where are we now? Maybe a year into that? Now we hear of a book, Elemental Heroes, that might target that, at least conceivably? What do you know, 2 years! lol. Sure, we are all impatient to have our pet projects be the thing that gets attention, but lets take a bit of a step back and admit that just because WotC doesn't see things exactly your way in terms of priority doesn't make them idiots.</blockquote>

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