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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 5488249" data-attributes="member: 61155">Average Level 1 Non-Striker: Probably deals between 1d6+3 to 1d8+4 damage. Level 1 Rogue: Between 1d4+2d6+3 to 1d4+2d8+6. Level 1 Ranger: Between 2d10+1d6 to 2d12+1d6+2. Level 1 Thief: Between 3d6+5 to 1d6+2d8+6. Level 1 Slayer: Between 1d10+7 to 1d12+9.  Yes, Strikers are generally dealing twice the damage of non-Strikers. But that isn't something caused by Essentials - it's been around since the PHB! It isn't really that the top-end of Strikers has improved, but more than they've beefed up the lower-end of them - we don't have Warlocks who are only doing a few points more than non-Strikers. Instead, most strikers perform well.  Now, it is certainly true some general boosts have developed over the course of the game. But I don't think the overall dynamic has changed that much, nor that we have Strikers that are inherently more self-sufficent than before. The Thief itself is, yes, more independant than the Rogue - but still is at risk due to fragility, and very hindered by certain conditions.</blockquote>