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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5491270" data-attributes="member: 2011">Can't do much else?A post ago your point was that Slayers have better hit points and defenses, and that's what balanced them out with Thieves. When I illustrated that as not necessarily accurate, you are now calling this Thief lousy at skills. Make up your mind. This Thief has 10 Acrobatics, Stealth, and Thievery. That's 3 skills that he has that are stronger on average than the Slayer's 3 trained skills.In addition, this Thief has 3 other trained skills at 5. Again, 3 skills better than any others of the Slayer.Is a 5 Perception really awful compared to a 7 of some other Thieves? Hardly. 10% of the time, he would miss a Perception roll that he would otherwise make. Some other Thieves don't take Perception at all. That doesn't mean that this Thief cannot do it as you claim.And it's still a better Perception than most PCs.And there are items or feats that could boost any of his skills if he wanted.You appear to be arguing just to argue.This Thief is better at combat than that Slayer and better at skills.There is nothing wrong with this Thief. He doesn't match your world view of a well designed Thief, but who cares about that? He would make a fine addition to a lot of teams. You just don't like the fact that he not only averaged better DPR than the Slayer (who could use a feat to get a better weapon), but he also averaged better defenses, better skills, the same hit points, more healing surges, and was better at nova-ing at first level.Sure, that Slayer will someday have a significant number of additional hit points more. And, there will be a few other things that he might be better than the Thief. But, that's hardly the point now, is it? This Thief is easily that Slayer's better, both in and out of combat at first level and for many levels after that (e.g. weapon talent at level 2 gives him an additional edge in combat once again).Now I'm sure we'll hear how some other Striker is better. zzzzzzzz</blockquote>

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