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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nemesis Destiny" data-source="post: 5491281" data-attributes="member: 98255">Ok, you're the one who set up the stats. Typically, what I said is true, and you point out the one case where a Thief makes a bunch of sacrifices to keep up to another class in an area they aren't strong. Fine. It can be done, but it's not typical, and hardly in their best interests.I am through arguing with you. You believe whatever you like, you can set up your numbers to illustrate your point all day long, but it's all just theorycraft, and has little to do with what I've seen at the gaming table. You can call that anecdotal if you want, because it is, but that doesn't change the fact that reality doesn't always turn out the same as the theory.You don't like the Thief, fine, ban the class in your games. The rest of us will do just fine with them. They're not unbalanced, overpowered, or underpowered. They're a class that has differing strengths and weaknesses when compared to other classes, striker or no.Talk about argument for the sake of argument.Every D&D forum has its 'Roy' I guess, and lucky me, I found him again.</blockquote>