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<blockquote data-quote="CuRoi" data-source="post: 5625026" data-attributes="member: 98032">Several people have made this distinction and I don't quite get it. Admittedly, I could be walking into some sort of edition war fishing trip, but could someone tell me why they feel there is a substantive difference in the way 4e / 3e /2e HPs are repesented? (Not only S'mon has expressed this view but other posters.)&nbsp;From what I can tell, the damage from powers in 4e is pretty explicitly spelled out as &quot;deep bleeding gashes&quot;, &quot;drawing blood&quot;, &quot;cracking skulls&quot;, &quot;your enemy suffers bleeding wounds&quot;, etc. etc. which are in turn &quot;healed&quot; by clerical healing, surges, warlords shouting encouragement, etc. etc. &nbsp;Previous editions, what a weapon swing &quot;did&quot; to make someone lose HPs was pretty much completely in the hands of the DM (with the exception of say Vorpal Swords and the like). This vague &quot;damage&quot; was in turn healed by rest or clerical spells.&nbsp;If anything the older editions give more leeway for DM interpretation whereas the newer seems to imply encouraging words can close &quot;deep bleeding gashes&quot;. Of course it could also be said &quot;and this is different from soothing clerical prayers closing deep bleeding gashes how?&quot;&nbsp;At any rate, I don't see the distinction (and don't worry, I'm a wily fish, I'm just nibbling, not ocmpletely on the bait if that's what this is <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="CuRoi, post: 5625026, member: 98032"] Several people have made this distinction and I don't quite get it. Admittedly, I could be walking into some sort of edition war fishing trip, but could someone tell me why they feel there is a substantive difference in the way 4e / 3e /2e HPs are repesented? (Not only S'mon has expressed this view but other posters.) From what I can tell, the damage from powers in 4e is pretty explicitly spelled out as "deep bleeding gashes", "drawing blood", "cracking skulls", "your enemy suffers bleeding wounds", etc. etc. which are in turn "healed" by clerical healing, surges, warlords shouting encouragement, etc. etc. Previous editions, what a weapon swing "did" to make someone lose HPs was pretty much completely in the hands of the DM (with the exception of say Vorpal Swords and the like). This vague "damage" was in turn healed by rest or clerical spells. If anything the older editions give more leeway for DM interpretation whereas the newer seems to imply encouraging words can close "deep bleeding gashes". Of course it could also be said "and this is different from soothing clerical prayers closing deep bleeding gashes how?" At any rate, I don't see the distinction (and don't worry, I'm a wily fish, I'm just nibbling, not ocmpletely on the bait if that's what this is :) [/QUOTE]

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