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Heteroglossia and D&D: Why D&D Speaks in a Multiplicity of Playing Styles
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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 8764668" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>It is <em>entirely valid</em> to push back on part of a claim, you know. I am not required to address points only as you want me to. If you don't want to engage with such, that's okay - you aren't required to.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, it is weird to go back to the OP when we are only on the second page of the thread, but let us do that...</p><p></p><p><em>"A group of highschoolers get together at lunch and plays D&D without dice or their rulebooks- that's D&D."</em></p><p></p><p>To which you asserted <em>"...the claim in the OP about kids playing D&D without dice or rules are both speaking to D&D as genre and a set of tropes while expressly denying that D&D is, in fact, a game with actually codified rules and systems."</em></p><p></p><p>I am simply pushing back on those kids play as being about tropes and genre, and rejecting that there's any denying going on at all. I think you've got to do a lot of work to make those stick. </p><p></p><p>If you aren't interested in doing that work, that's fine. But you shouldn't expect folks to accept the assertion as given.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not rhetoric - just personal experience.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 8764668, member: 177"] It is [I]entirely valid[/I] to push back on part of a claim, you know. I am not required to address points only as you want me to. If you don't want to engage with such, that's okay - you aren't required to. So, it is weird to go back to the OP when we are only on the second page of the thread, but let us do that... [I]"A group of highschoolers get together at lunch and plays D&D without dice or their rulebooks- that's D&D."[/I] To which you asserted [I]"...the claim in the OP about kids playing D&D without dice or rules are both speaking to D&D as genre and a set of tropes while expressly denying that D&D is, in fact, a game with actually codified rules and systems."[/I] I am simply pushing back on those kids play as being about tropes and genre, and rejecting that there's any denying going on at all. I think you've got to do a lot of work to make those stick. If you aren't interested in doing that work, that's fine. But you shouldn't expect folks to accept the assertion as given. Not rhetoric - just personal experience. [/QUOTE]
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