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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Malmuria" data-source="post: 8788830" data-attributes="member: 7030755">I would say yes, this still "counts" as dnd.  However, if I were to assert such a thing on these boards, let's say in a thread about social mechanics in games, I would expect resistance.  People might say that such play is not really using anything from the system, and thereby relies on one's own invention, and in that way such play should not be credited to the system.  And if the players of those games wanted to play a game of interpersonal drama, why not pick up a different game specifically for designed for that (like Monsterhearts)? I would say this does count as Monsterhearts.  But then, to quote <a href="https://possumcreek.medium.com/a-dozen-fragments-on-playground-theory-684104bcb4ab" target="_blank">Jay Dragon again</a>, "If I hang out with my friends and we all tell stories set in the world of Earthsea, can it not be said that we’re playing Earthsea? And by extension, if we all tell stories in the world implied by Monsterhearts, isn’t that still Monsterhearts even if we’re not using the dice mechanics described by the book?"But again, I would expect that point of view to see a fair amount of resistance on these boards.  I do find this current discussion interesting and surprising because of all the times I've seen the insistence that a game (any game) occupies, or at least ideally occupies, a relatively narrow band of focused play.  And that if you go beyond this narrow band, one is not playing by the rules, and thus playing it wrong, or that the game "drifts" to some other narrow band of play.Personally, if someone says they played dnd last weekend, and then I learn that they are playing OCs in the Stardew Valley extended universe and they spent their time playing a fishing mini-game using a homebrewed d12 dicepool system...they are still playing dnd.  The important thing to me is their experience and conceptualization of the activity, which takes precedence over my categorization preferences.</blockquote>

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