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<blockquote data-quote="NotAYakk" data-source="post: 7977823" data-attributes="member: 72555"><p>No there is a cheesy loophole involving a chicken.</p><p></p><p>It just isn't the OP's example.</p><p></p><p>You are a warlock. You wake up from a long rest. Maybe a bit earlier than everyone else.</p><p></p><p>The first thing you do is buy a live chicken. Then you cast Hex on it. Then you kill it.</p><p></p><p>Now you take a short rest.</p><p></p><p>After the short rest, you both have Hex, which you are concentrating on, and all of your spell slots back. Hex (once you are level 5) lasts far longer than a short rest; by level 9 it lasts 24 hours.</p><p></p><p>You cannot cast hex without a creature to cast it on, and you cannot get it "free floating" without reducing that creature to 0 HP. Without the chicken, you'd be forced to wait for the first fight of the day, burn a spell slot on hex to cast it, defeat the creature, then take a short rest before the second fight of the day.</p><p></p><p>With the chicken sacrifice first thing in the morning, you enter that combat with a Hex you can drop on a target without casting a spell.</p><p></p><p>This is a clear "bag of rats" situation.</p><p></p><p>There are five approaches I can see here.</p><p></p><p>1. Nerf concentration through short rests.</p><p></p><p>2. Nerf regaining spell slots while concentrating on a spell from a that spell slot.</p><p></p><p>3. Nerf all concentration spells longer than a few minutes.</p><p></p><p>4. Nerf using hex on "bag of rat" targets; your patron is not amused.</p><p></p><p>5. Accept this case, because sacrificing a tiny animal for a small amount of power is thematic for a Warlock.</p><p></p><p>I consider <strong>3</strong> to be heavy handed and pitied the players of the DM who resorts to that kind of thing.</p><p></p><p>The other ones all seem reasonable to me. I'd bias towards (5) myself, because I don't see a huge balance problem here. If I found it to be a problem, I might move towards (4) or (2).</p><p></p><p>I might also use (4) because it is a delicious plot-hook.</p><p></p><p>Note that 1, 2, 3 are ruled out by tweet-rulings; concentrating through short rests is intended to work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NotAYakk, post: 7977823, member: 72555"] No there is a cheesy loophole involving a chicken. It just isn't the OP's example. You are a warlock. You wake up from a long rest. Maybe a bit earlier than everyone else. The first thing you do is buy a live chicken. Then you cast Hex on it. Then you kill it. Now you take a short rest. After the short rest, you both have Hex, which you are concentrating on, and all of your spell slots back. Hex (once you are level 5) lasts far longer than a short rest; by level 9 it lasts 24 hours. You cannot cast hex without a creature to cast it on, and you cannot get it "free floating" without reducing that creature to 0 HP. Without the chicken, you'd be forced to wait for the first fight of the day, burn a spell slot on hex to cast it, defeat the creature, then take a short rest before the second fight of the day. With the chicken sacrifice first thing in the morning, you enter that combat with a Hex you can drop on a target without casting a spell. This is a clear "bag of rats" situation. There are five approaches I can see here. 1. Nerf concentration through short rests. 2. Nerf regaining spell slots while concentrating on a spell from a that spell slot. 3. Nerf all concentration spells longer than a few minutes. 4. Nerf using hex on "bag of rat" targets; your patron is not amused. 5. Accept this case, because sacrificing a tiny animal for a small amount of power is thematic for a Warlock. I consider [B]3[/B] to be heavy handed and pitied the players of the DM who resorts to that kind of thing. The other ones all seem reasonable to me. I'd bias towards (5) myself, because I don't see a huge balance problem here. If I found it to be a problem, I might move towards (4) or (2). I might also use (4) because it is a delicious plot-hook. Note that 1, 2, 3 are ruled out by tweet-rulings; concentrating through short rests is intended to work. [/QUOTE]
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