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<blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 7983153" data-attributes="member: 6855114"><p>Not a lot. Not a lot.</p><p></p><p>But how many DM enforce the Ethos of a god onto the player playing a cleric or a paladin?</p><p>The answer is: "Not a lot". Again...</p><p></p><p>The warlock is not a very popular class in my games just because of that. I do insist on character creation that the Warlock writes exactly what he wanted from his patron (usually power) and I write the contract, terms, duration and whether or not the contract is renewable and on which conditions (if any). I once had a warlock which had a 10 year terms for his contract and I said: "Ok, 3 years passe between the end of your adventure and the beginning of the next one". The warlock was not happy about it. Then I had a warlock suffer a total loss of power because he hadn't respected his contract, the player complained that her character was not a cleric. I said, worse, you bargained with a power that does not even care one iota about you, your race and your goals. She (the Winter Queen) cares only about herself and her feys. (She had harmed a fey in self defense but it was written in her contract that she would never harm a fey under any conditions. Not even to save her life...).</p><p></p><p>So yep, not a lot. And if you're the kind of DM that does, the class loses a lot of its appeal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Helldritch, post: 7983153, member: 6855114"] Not a lot. Not a lot. But how many DM enforce the Ethos of a god onto the player playing a cleric or a paladin? The answer is: "Not a lot". Again... The warlock is not a very popular class in my games just because of that. I do insist on character creation that the Warlock writes exactly what he wanted from his patron (usually power) and I write the contract, terms, duration and whether or not the contract is renewable and on which conditions (if any). I once had a warlock which had a 10 year terms for his contract and I said: "Ok, 3 years passe between the end of your adventure and the beginning of the next one". The warlock was not happy about it. Then I had a warlock suffer a total loss of power because he hadn't respected his contract, the player complained that her character was not a cleric. I said, worse, you bargained with a power that does not even care one iota about you, your race and your goals. She (the Winter Queen) cares only about herself and her feys. (She had harmed a fey in self defense but it was written in her contract that she would never harm a fey under any conditions. Not even to save her life...). So yep, not a lot. And if you're the kind of DM that does, the class loses a lot of its appeal. [/QUOTE]
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