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<blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 7987733" data-attributes="member: 6855114"><p>So you say. I say otherwise and so are you in some other posts. I will not go down the search for quotes for 29+ pages. Find them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The has been brought up. Of course if the character is trying to survive worst, he is obviously not commiting suicide. I would rule that his hp will work normally.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Wrong. But that is my POV. The above is yours. I am perfectly right at my table. You are at yours. For the sake of the argument: "I would allow the chicken and the bag of rat. I don't even mind at all this "cheat or game" as some others are saying." But they are within their rights to say no. If it is not in the monster manual, it is not a creature as every creatures are in the MM monsters, animals, abherations etc... Chickens are not there. BUT if you want Abyssal Chickens in your bag... </p><p></p><p>Until chickens are added to a MM they are not creatures that is RAW. But is it RAI? As I have said earlier. I would gladly allow the chicken shenanigan. I would then roll on the random encounter table section "0 encounter for the day. (very hard to deadly encounter)" if said player really insist on taking a short rest before or after breakfast. It would probably be my players that would yell a resounding NO WAY!</p><p></p><p></p><p>No, that is entirely wrong. We are not saying this at all. <u>If the character wants to live but see no other choice, HP applies and it is universally agreed upon.</u> A player that makes a character jumps for the for the fun of it, is just making his character take on a suicidal path. That is what we are talking about from the begining. If you want to quote, good. But quote fully and not partially. From the begining we have this discussion about a character jumping off from a cliff. That is suicidal. The horde was added later when it was seen that under special circumstances a character could survive.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Unfortunately they are not. They are favored by the gods, fate or whatever. They do what they do because they are heroes. But if they want to kill themselves, they will die. It is not hard to understand. Who are you to stop somebody to have his character comit suicide? Be a good DM and let him die. He's dying for it!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Helldritch, post: 7987733, member: 6855114"] So you say. I say otherwise and so are you in some other posts. I will not go down the search for quotes for 29+ pages. Find them. The has been brought up. Of course if the character is trying to survive worst, he is obviously not commiting suicide. I would rule that his hp will work normally. Wrong. But that is my POV. The above is yours. I am perfectly right at my table. You are at yours. For the sake of the argument: "I would allow the chicken and the bag of rat. I don't even mind at all this "cheat or game" as some others are saying." But they are within their rights to say no. If it is not in the monster manual, it is not a creature as every creatures are in the MM monsters, animals, abherations etc... Chickens are not there. BUT if you want Abyssal Chickens in your bag... Until chickens are added to a MM they are not creatures that is RAW. But is it RAI? As I have said earlier. I would gladly allow the chicken shenanigan. I would then roll on the random encounter table section "0 encounter for the day. (very hard to deadly encounter)" if said player really insist on taking a short rest before or after breakfast. It would probably be my players that would yell a resounding NO WAY! No, that is entirely wrong. We are not saying this at all. [U]If the character wants to live but see no other choice, HP applies and it is universally agreed upon.[/U] A player that makes a character jumps for the for the fun of it, is just making his character take on a suicidal path. That is what we are talking about from the begining. If you want to quote, good. But quote fully and not partially. From the begining we have this discussion about a character jumping off from a cliff. That is suicidal. The horde was added later when it was seen that under special circumstances a character could survive. Unfortunately they are not. They are favored by the gods, fate or whatever. They do what they do because they are heroes. But if they want to kill themselves, they will die. It is not hard to understand. Who are you to stop somebody to have his character comit suicide? Be a good DM and let him die. He's dying for it! [/QUOTE]
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