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<blockquote data-quote="Axiomatic Unicorn" data-source="post: 44332" data-attributes="member: 1974"><p>Hate to break it to you, but I never claimed that european monks were in any way "kung fu kids". I clearly stated that it is reasonable to assume that if divine intervention were real, european-style monks would be much more supernatural. And then from there I state that the eastern stereo-type is ONE reasonable means of represetning that. I think you have significantly mis-represented my arguement.</p><p></p><p>As to flagellents, they certainly saved most of the flailing for themselves, but would not hesitate to throw anyone else on the bonfire as they saw fit. They were extremely violent. Which was my only point. If you are claiming that they did not hurt other people, I just gotta say that you are far wrong.</p><p></p><p>As to vows against violence, again, I think it is silly to try to paint 100% of all european monks into that one little box. I stated that the vast majority of clergy avoided battle. Your correct statement that some did fight does not refute my claim. The small portion that did fight is the basis (generally) for the PC class cleric. By the same token, only a small portion of monks need be violent to establish a archetype for the monk class.</p><p></p><p>Plus, in the D&D "reality" good and evil (as well as law and chaos) exist in a much more absolute sense. Another reason to assume that some fraction of the monks would be much more likely to be compelled to take the battle to the opposition around them.</p><p></p><p>I will re-state for clarity: I in no way what-so-ever claim that real european monks were any kind of "kung fu kid". I do claim that ONE of many reasonable interpretations of european monks translated into a world were divine and arcane magic are real, is to, very roughly, model them after their eastern counter-parts. </p><p></p><p>To say that this simply CAN NOT BE boggles my mind.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Axiomatic Unicorn, post: 44332, member: 1974"] Hate to break it to you, but I never claimed that european monks were in any way "kung fu kids". I clearly stated that it is reasonable to assume that if divine intervention were real, european-style monks would be much more supernatural. And then from there I state that the eastern stereo-type is ONE reasonable means of represetning that. I think you have significantly mis-represented my arguement. As to flagellents, they certainly saved most of the flailing for themselves, but would not hesitate to throw anyone else on the bonfire as they saw fit. They were extremely violent. Which was my only point. If you are claiming that they did not hurt other people, I just gotta say that you are far wrong. As to vows against violence, again, I think it is silly to try to paint 100% of all european monks into that one little box. I stated that the vast majority of clergy avoided battle. Your correct statement that some did fight does not refute my claim. The small portion that did fight is the basis (generally) for the PC class cleric. By the same token, only a small portion of monks need be violent to establish a archetype for the monk class. Plus, in the D&D "reality" good and evil (as well as law and chaos) exist in a much more absolute sense. Another reason to assume that some fraction of the monks would be much more likely to be compelled to take the battle to the opposition around them. I will re-state for clarity: I in no way what-so-ever claim that real european monks were any kind of "kung fu kid". I do claim that ONE of many reasonable interpretations of european monks translated into a world were divine and arcane magic are real, is to, very roughly, model them after their eastern counter-parts. To say that this simply CAN NOT BE boggles my mind. [/QUOTE]
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