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<blockquote data-quote="Black Arrow" data-source="post: 4919252" data-attributes="member: 3846">In the situation SigmaX0 described, you definitely should be able to perform rampage or any other free actions in addition to the action granted by an Action Point.&nbsp; Taking an Action Point is the exception to being allowed to take &quot;further actions&quot; following a charge.&nbsp; From PHB p288... in &quot;CHARGE: STANDARD ACTION&quot; block: &quot;No Further Actions: After you resolve a charge attack, you can’t take any further actionS this turn, unless you spend an action point to take an extra action.&quot;From PHB p p286... in &quot;SPEND AN ACTION POINT: FREE ACTION&quot; block: &quot;The action that an action point grants is a standard, move, or minor action.&quot;The rule clause that prevents further actionS following a charge is removed by spending an action point to take an extra action.&nbsp; I'd definitely allow taking unused free actions.&nbsp; Heck, per RAW it seems you could even take unused move and/or minor actions in addition to the action granted by taking the action point following a charge.Believe it's also RAI in that it can't be abused THAT much (sinister grin.. thinking of my Fleetrunner of Ehlonna [charger] smackdown from bygone 3e ages ago).&nbsp; Action Points are only meant to be available every other encounter (every milestone).The arcane feycharger otoh I believe has the highest DPR of any build on the WotC charops boards precisely because it allows free actions (including Eladrin Swordmage Advance) following a charge.&nbsp; This ruling would help reign in such abuses, permitting max damage only once per milestone (action point).Otoh, I did notice one other potentially abusable triggered effect.&nbsp; Steel Vanguard Flourish feat (from Dragon 373) allows an MBA against &quot;any other enemy in your reach&quot; upon scoring a critical hit without requiring expenditure of a [free] action, so it could be used...&nbsp; Rending weapon triggered effect also applies [no required action]... But lvl 16 Draeven Marauder (Dragon 365) is out of luck (triggered MBA requires a free action).&nbsp; I don't think the designers ever intended non-high Str/Con characters (who can't access unstoppable charge epic feat) to never be able to take unused actions following a charge, but just make such instances rare (requiring expediture of an action point).Cheers, BANote: I'll change my tune completely if one of the developers chime in differently on rules intent.&nbsp; This would be a good topic to address via FAQ and/or errata too.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Black Arrow, post: 4919252, member: 3846"] In the situation SigmaX0 described, you definitely should be able to perform rampage or any other free actions in addition to the action granted by an Action Point. Taking an Action Point is the exception to being allowed to take "further actions" following a charge. From PHB p288... in "CHARGE: STANDARD ACTION" block: "No Further Actions: After you resolve a charge attack, you can’t take any further actionS this turn, unless you spend an action point to take an extra action." From PHB p p286... in "SPEND AN ACTION POINT: FREE ACTION" block: "The action that an action point grants is a standard, move, or minor action." The rule clause that prevents further actionS following a charge is removed by spending an action point to take an extra action. I'd definitely allow taking unused free actions. Heck, per RAW it seems you could even take unused move and/or minor actions in addition to the action granted by taking the action point following a charge. Believe it's also RAI in that it can't be abused THAT much (sinister grin.. thinking of my Fleetrunner of Ehlonna [charger] smackdown from bygone 3e ages ago). Action Points are only meant to be available every other encounter (every milestone). The arcane feycharger otoh I believe has the highest DPR of any build on the WotC charops boards precisely because it allows free actions (including Eladrin Swordmage Advance) following a charge. This ruling would help reign in such abuses, permitting max damage only once per milestone (action point). Otoh, I did notice one other potentially abusable triggered effect. Steel Vanguard Flourish feat (from Dragon 373) allows an MBA against "any other enemy in your reach" upon scoring a critical hit without requiring expenditure of a [free] action, so it could be used... Rending weapon triggered effect also applies [no required action]... But lvl 16 Draeven Marauder (Dragon 365) is out of luck (triggered MBA requires a free action). I don't think the designers ever intended non-high Str/Con characters (who can't access unstoppable charge epic feat) to never be able to take unused actions following a charge, but just make such instances rare (requiring expediture of an action point). Cheers, BA Note: I'll change my tune completely if one of the developers chime in differently on rules intent. This would be a good topic to address via FAQ and/or errata too. [/QUOTE]

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