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Message: <blockquote data-quote="sinmissing" data-source="post: 1803039" data-attributes="member: 1960">Either Rodrigo is saying specifically that his intelligence is responsible for his ability to gain extra skills, or he is completely incorrect in attributing his intelligence to his job and instead is actually benefitting from wise time management. (A high WIS)I disagree.  I cannot follow the rest of this argument, because the initial premise is mired in an intellectual superiority complex.  "I'm smart, so I learn everything faster".  A strong person learns to do things that require strength faster than a weak intelligent person, I have personal experience in this, having been raised in a working class family who specializes in construction (both interior and exterior, to include roofing).  Being a smart worker only gets you so far.  You can compensate with intelligence, but being smart does not immediately make you more capable at doing anything, much like Weapon Finesse allows you to compensate for a low Strength when wielding a light weapon by using your Dexterity, it should be possible to compensate the lack of a specific natural talent with another talent, but every skill in D20 has one specific attribute which governs your natural capability.  Of course, you don't have to take my word for it, just go out and find a class of people, whose opportunities greatly inhibit the pursuit of intellectual subjects, whose resources limit their capability in expressing artistic, literal, or philosophical ideas, yet seem capable of filling the roles of the manual laborer, infantry man, or on the rare occasion, sports hero.Only by falsely weighing the example to support your conclusion can your argument succeed.  If you take two strong heroes with equal strength, all things being equal, they will have equivalent BAB, Hit Points, and 2 Skill Points per level, but the intelligent of the two will have an untapped knack for INT based skills, not a magical font of free Skill Points from which to draw on.Now I must abandon intellectual superiority and belittle the effort it takes a smart person to achieve his intellectual goals?  Intelligence must be excercised and practised just like Strength, Hand Eye Coordination, or Social Graces.  Every individual must balance their time between physical and mental persuits.  The Smart Hero abandons, however temporary, physical and martial pursuits in order to gain a broad base of knowledge.  The Strong hero hones their physical prowess at the cost of something else.  Why is it that the Strong Hero is allowed, in addition to their outstanding hit points and bab, extra skill points which should be the forte of the Smart Hero?  I've only heard  opinions which allow a Strong Hero to do just that.  I have yet to hear a reasonable example of why the Smart Hero can't get interative attacks because of a.  Their incredible intellect for finding the best way to attack, or b. Because of a naturally high Strength or Dexterity.Why, because in your campaign the smart means dumb, up is down, and fire is a cool refreshing drink?Then please give justification why we can diminish the value of a skill point, by allowing the Strong Hero a free pool of points due to high intelligence, but we can't belittle the effort to increase one's BAB by allowing a Smart Hero with a high Strength to have iterative attacks?You shouldn't get more skill points unless you put effort into gaining them, just like you can't get iterative attacks quickly unless you focus on a martial class, this is my experience and my opinion.  I say let Strong mean Physically Powerful, Smart mean highly skilled, and hone the best parts of Grim Tales.</blockquote>

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