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<blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 4819604" data-attributes="member: 80487">Addressing your second claim first: Fritz Leiber suggested &quot;sword-and-sorcery as a good popular catchphrase for the field&quot; in 1961, responding to Michael Moorcock's request for a term (his proposal being &quot;epic fantasy&quot;) for the kind of fantasy-adventure story Robert E. Howard wrote.In itself, that could be a very broad usage. Indeed, De Camp and Carter used it interchangeably with &quot;heroic fantasy&quot; to refer indiscriminately to the whole spectrum from Fafhrd to Frodo. However, Leiber himself wrote that The foreword to the original D&amp;D set suggested:&quot;Swords &amp; sorcery best describes what this game is all about,&quot; Gygax wrote in the AD&amp;D PHB, &quot;for those are the two key fantasy ingredients.&quot; DMG Appendix N, Inspirational and Educational Reading, indicates his sources of inspiration. &quot;The most immediate influences upon AD&amp;D were probably de Camp &amp; Pratt, REH, Fritz Leiber, Jack Vance, HPL, and A. Merritt.&quot; There is an entry forTolkien, J.R.R. THE HOBBIT; &quot;Ring Trilogy&quot;but the list is dominated by works that most critics and genre authors would categorize as S&amp;S, horror or &quot;weird tale&quot;, SF, or some other category of adventure fiction distinct in theme and temperament from the &quot;high fantasy&quot; of Tolkien. Gygax has indicated that he much preferred The Hobbit to TLOTR.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ariosto, post: 4819604, member: 80487"] Addressing your second claim first: Fritz Leiber suggested "sword-and-sorcery as a good popular catchphrase for the field" in 1961, responding to Michael Moorcock's request for a term (his proposal being "epic fantasy") for the kind of fantasy-adventure story Robert E. Howard wrote. In itself, that could be a very broad usage. Indeed, De Camp and Carter used it interchangeably with "heroic fantasy" to refer indiscriminately to the whole spectrum from Fafhrd to Frodo. However, Leiber himself wrote that The foreword to the original D&D set suggested: "Swords & sorcery best describes what this game is all about," Gygax wrote in the AD&D PHB, "for those are the two key fantasy ingredients." DMG Appendix N, Inspirational and Educational Reading, indicates his sources of inspiration. "The most immediate influences upon AD&D were probably de Camp & Pratt, REH, Fritz Leiber, Jack Vance, HPL, and A. Merritt." There is an entry for Tolkien, J.R.R. THE HOBBIT; "Ring Trilogy" but the list is dominated by works that most critics and genre authors would categorize as S&S, horror or "weird tale", SF, or some other category of adventure fiction distinct in theme and temperament from the "high fantasy" of Tolkien. Gygax has indicated that he much preferred [i]The Hobbit[/i] to TLOTR. [/QUOTE]

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