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<blockquote data-quote="Tigh" data-source="post: 4819766" data-attributes="member: 83951"><p><strong>D&D is so much more ...</strong></p><p></p><p>d&d is so much more ...</p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">it opened ears</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">the first hyper virus</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">lifted the taboo on representing god in the first person </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p></p><p></p><p>Three great things sure, but D&D is so much more. Written after President Carter and the oil crunch, it was a time capsule to teach the realities of survival in a world without oil. Written for the day that we came back around to Carters perspective and accept that oil can fix the world or break the world but it can not last. So is it really so surprising there is a resurgence of old school D&D. Atheist and Christian alike are finding that their high fantasies of consequence free power are starting to feel hollow. And, that maybe some attention to a minimum level of decency may be in order.</p><p></p><p>Is D&D cowboy wisdom? No. Am I a survivalist? No. Am I an environmentalist? No.</p><p></p><p>D&D is a point based character development system. One wrapped around a premise that a dragon is guarding all the gold and if you defeat that dragon you can spend the gold as you see fit. People from the old school don't chuckle about how everyone in their party died for any less of a reason than it accurately reflects how difficult this task is. Particularly if one takes the analogy that gold is oil.</p><p></p><p>In the 80's, with the explosion of rpgs, sometimes the gold analogy was redefined to symbolize something else. In one setting the analogy was so well redefined that the physical presence of gold was removed from the game. But everyone still knew what the game was about. Sence then gold has suffered from creep. It no longer has any symbolic meaning in the games produced. The meaning is found elsewhere in less earthly physical terms.</p><p></p><p>But that unease is still there. The intangible is not such a sure escape from reality any more. People want to fly high still, but they are starting to analyze and pick at the minutia. Its almost like the edges of the garment are starting to frey and no one can find the hem.</p><p></p><p>So what is D&D. Are we unified. Are we divided against ourselves. I don't know. Everyone has their own vision of D&D now and I want to respect that. And now for my theory.</p><p></p><p>D&D is the emergence of role based society as opposed to the old class based society. Unfortunately it is called a role playing game but contains the word "classes" to categorize those roles. They should have been called roles.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>Tigh</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tigh, post: 4819766, member: 83951"] [b]D&D is so much more ...[/b] d&d is so much more ... [INDENT]it opened ears the first hyper virus lifted the taboo on representing god in the first person [/INDENT] Three great things sure, but D&D is so much more. Written after President Carter and the oil crunch, it was a time capsule to teach the realities of survival in a world without oil. Written for the day that we came back around to Carters perspective and accept that oil can fix the world or break the world but it can not last. So is it really so surprising there is a resurgence of old school D&D. Atheist and Christian alike are finding that their high fantasies of consequence free power are starting to feel hollow. And, that maybe some attention to a minimum level of decency may be in order. Is D&D cowboy wisdom? No. Am I a survivalist? No. Am I an environmentalist? No. D&D is a point based character development system. One wrapped around a premise that a dragon is guarding all the gold and if you defeat that dragon you can spend the gold as you see fit. People from the old school don't chuckle about how everyone in their party died for any less of a reason than it accurately reflects how difficult this task is. Particularly if one takes the analogy that gold is oil. In the 80's, with the explosion of rpgs, sometimes the gold analogy was redefined to symbolize something else. In one setting the analogy was so well redefined that the physical presence of gold was removed from the game. But everyone still knew what the game was about. Sence then gold has suffered from creep. It no longer has any symbolic meaning in the games produced. The meaning is found elsewhere in less earthly physical terms. But that unease is still there. The intangible is not such a sure escape from reality any more. People want to fly high still, but they are starting to analyze and pick at the minutia. Its almost like the edges of the garment are starting to frey and no one can find the hem. So what is D&D. Are we unified. Are we divided against ourselves. I don't know. Everyone has their own vision of D&D now and I want to respect that. And now for my theory. D&D is the emergence of role based society as opposed to the old class based society. Unfortunately it is called a role playing game but contains the word "classes" to categorize those roles. They should have been called roles. :) Tigh [/QUOTE]
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