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<blockquote data-quote="eamon" data-source="post: 5021829" data-attributes="member: 51942">How about chain proficiency for Con-shamans (that is before hide armor expertise)?&nbsp; Or weapon proficiency with some superior weapon?&nbsp; Or dwarven weapon training for melee fighting dwarves?&nbsp; Or toughness in early heroic tier?&nbsp; Weapon Focus?&nbsp; Dual Implement mastery for those it applies to?&nbsp; etc.Being commonly used is perhaps a prerequisite to deserve a close look up, but a very weak indicator by itself.&nbsp; Because there are so many different builds, if you reduce your focus to a small enough branch of options, then the signature choices for those options immediate look overpowered.&nbsp; That doesn't actually mean they are; the appropriate comparison is not within that branch but between those branches.Having said that, if an option is truly a non-choice, there is an argument to be made that a class feature or similar mechanic would be a better choice to implement it.&nbsp; Note that hide armor expertise is quite useful to non-barbarians too, so that argument doesn't really fly, here.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="eamon, post: 5021829, member: 51942"] How about chain proficiency for Con-shamans (that is before hide armor expertise)? Or weapon proficiency with some superior weapon? Or dwarven weapon training for melee fighting dwarves? Or toughness in early heroic tier? Weapon Focus? Dual Implement mastery for those it applies to? etc. Being commonly used is perhaps a prerequisite to deserve a close look up, but a very weak indicator by itself. Because there are so many different builds, if you reduce your focus to a small enough branch of options, then the signature choices for those options immediate look overpowered. That doesn't actually mean they are; the appropriate comparison is not within that branch but between those branches. Having said that, if an option is truly a non-choice, there is an argument to be made that a class feature or similar mechanic would be a better choice to implement it. Note that hide armor expertise is quite useful to non-barbarians too, so that argument doesn't really fly, here. [/QUOTE]

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