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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Thurham" data-source="post: 455384" data-attributes="member: 4378">This is a situation that may come up in the next session for the PCs: There will more than likely be several Orc rogues hiding in several buildings. The windows of those buildings have shutters and for the most part are closed. Orcs don’t like the sunlight. The party will be pre-occupied with another orc / wolverine battle in the courtyard. The rogue orcs will open the shutters a crack or so and shoot from their nice hiding spots. Nice arrow slits eh? So, in a nut-shell, once a party member is struck from an arrow from a general direction (a sneak-attack most likely), what considerations do I need to do to give the PC a chance of detecting where that arrow came from and whether or not the PC can actually see the orc hiding behind the shutters. I’m well aware of the SPOT vs HIDE checks, I’m more interested in what circumstance modifiers I should include on this and any other input. Since in 3e, there is no “Forward-face”, there is a chance that PC may see the shot and know where it came from, so that PC returns fire to that spot in the window. There’s bound to be a high cover bonus, not to mention the orc is in “hiding” and does not want to be seen. How would you handle this?Thanks!LT</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lord Thurham, post: 455384, member: 4378"] This is a situation that may come up in the next session for the PCs: There will more than likely be several Orc rogues hiding in several buildings. The windows of those buildings have shutters and for the most part are closed. Orcs don’t like the sunlight. The party will be pre-occupied with another orc / wolverine battle in the courtyard. The rogue orcs will open the shutters a crack or so and shoot from their nice hiding spots. Nice arrow slits eh? So, in a nut-shell, once a party member is struck from an arrow from a general direction (a sneak-attack most likely), what considerations do I need to do to give the PC a chance of detecting where that arrow came from and whether or not the PC can actually see the orc hiding behind the shutters. I’m well aware of the SPOT vs HIDE checks, I’m more interested in what circumstance modifiers I should include on this and any other input. Since in 3e, there is no “Forward-face”, there is a chance that PC may see the shot and know where it came from, so that PC returns fire to that spot in the window. There’s bound to be a high cover bonus, not to mention the orc is in “hiding” and does not want to be seen. How would you handle this? Thanks! LT [/QUOTE]

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