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<blockquote data-quote="Destil" data-source="post: 988160" data-attributes="member: 1980">Re: They allow that alreadyHUH?Unless I've missed something really really big, it's never an issue of &quot;have any reason to be wary.&quot; It's all about Dex bonus to AC and being flanked. And thus awareness / iniative / threatned area.&nbsp;Other guy fails listen and spot checks vs. your hide and move silently. You get into melee range. They unaware, thus suprise round. Sneak attack! (unless they have uncanny dodge) If you win initative, more Sneak Attacks! If you use a scroll of Summon Monster X and put an earth elemental on the other size of them, more Sneak Attacks!Both aware. No suprise round. If you win iniative and make it to melee range, Sneak Attack!I've been wrong quite a few times before, but I'm not sure that was ever a rule in 3E...The main issue I'm still fuzzy on in 3E is when / how often to roll spot &amp; move silently as you aproach someone and the possible distance modifier to move silently. How often is fairly easy, with the sneaking around the camp example in the DMG. Distance I'm not too sure on, I've been using the 'Listen DCs to Detect Invisible' chart on DMG 78: +1 per 10 feet. So if you beat the move silently check by 4 points you hear them when they're 50' away, and that's when iniative starts (both sides aware). This makes it very easy to sneak around some distance from a group, however...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Destil, post: 988160, member: 1980"] [b]Re: They allow that already[/b] HUH? Unless I've missed something really really big, it's never an issue of "have any reason to be wary." It's all about Dex bonus to AC and being flanked. And thus awareness / iniative / threatned area. [b][/b] Other guy fails listen and spot checks vs. your hide and move silently. You get into melee range. They unaware, thus suprise round. Sneak attack! (unless they have uncanny dodge) If you win initative, more Sneak Attacks! If you use a scroll of Summon Monster X and put an earth elemental on the other size of them, more Sneak Attacks! [b][/b]Both aware. No suprise round. If you win iniative and make it to melee range, Sneak Attack! [b][/B]I've been wrong quite a few times before, but I'm not sure that was ever a rule in 3E... The main issue I'm still fuzzy on in 3E is when / how often to roll spot & move silently as you aproach someone and the possible distance modifier to move silently. How often is fairly easy, with the sneaking around the camp example in the DMG. Distance I'm not too sure on, I've been using the 'Listen DCs to Detect Invisible' chart on DMG 78: +1 per 10 feet. So if you beat the move silently check by 4 points you hear them when they're 50' away, and that's when iniative starts (both sides aware). This makes it very easy to sneak around some distance from a group, however... [/QUOTE]

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