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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thikket" data-source="post: 1529989" data-attributes="member: 13333">I hate to bring this up one more time, but I'm going to try to clarify everything I've found. I agree (of course, heh) with Mike's interpretation completely.If you make a Standard Action while hidden with a ranged attack and want to get the benefits from it:1. You make a Standard Action, deny your target their Dex to AC (as an invisible attacker).2. You must immediately make a Move-Equivalent Action to rehide (or remain hidden, same difference) at a -20 penalty. If you pass, you're still hidden; if you fail, you're no longer hidden. In either case, you would deal sneak attack damage if applicable.If you make a Standard Action while hidden with a ranged attack and don't care about the benefits:1. You make a Standard Action or Full Attack action, but your target is not denied their Dex to AC (just as any normal person could do). You are revealed.2. Afterwards, you can take a Move-Equivalent Action (if you have it) to rehide at no penalty as long as your opponents are not paying attention to you. If you pass, you're hidden; if you fail, you're still not hidden.I was absolutely incorrect in my idea that hiding after Sniping isn't an action, as someone kindly pointed out:"However, hiding immediately after a ranged attack (see Sniping, above) is a move action."I am of the opinion that Hide in Plain Sight does not change this situation whatsoever except to allow you more opportunities to hide (IE, everything normal (cover, concealment) and also shadows).The second option still seems like a legit tactic to me, one defensive rather than offensive. The former is great for rogues; the latter seems like something most archers would try for, just to avoid blows (like the cowards they are!).Whatcha think? Am I being dense again? Certainly stubborn, at the least...Thanks for all the great thought-provoking replies!ThikketRelevant quotes reposted:Sniping: If you’ve already successfully hidden at least 10 feet from your target, you can make one ranged attack, then immediately hide again. You take a –20 penalty on your Hide check to conceal yourself after the shot.Action: Usually none. Normally, you make a Hide check as part of movement, so it doesn’t take a separate action. However, hiding immediately after a ranged attack (see Sniping, above) is a move action.(note that one can infer the Action taking process immediately from these two quotes)</blockquote>

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