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<blockquote data-quote="Majere" data-source="post: 1532336" data-attributes="member: 13916">Meh its so simple, or so I though having played a shadowdancer/rogue/sorcerer through to 18th level:You can attack and then hide. You get one attack and then hide (unless hasted) this can be a sneak attack if unobserved. There is no penalty for hiding in this course of actionIt requires something to hide behind. Even then the enemy are liable to know what square you are in etc.You can takes a full attck option, and a 5 foot step. You can attempt to &quot;hide while attacking&quot;. This entails a -20 on your hide check.You still require somewhere to hide, and you must &quot;not be observed&quot;. i.e. you must have been hidden before your attack.HipSAllows you to hide while being observed or while in cover. All it means is that you can hide in circumstances you might not normally be able to.It does NOT make it any easier to hide, just increases the possibilities of when you may hide.You still take -5 to move at full speed or -10 to run while hiding. Even using hide in plain sight. OverallThe -20 still applies if he takes a full round attackIf he takes one then he can hide at no penalty but not moveOr he can take a single shot, hide at -20 and then move half his speed.Majere</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Majere, post: 1532336, member: 13916"] Meh its so simple, or so I though having played a shadowdancer/rogue/sorcerer through to 18th level: You can attack and then hide. You get one attack and then hide (unless hasted) this can be a sneak attack if unobserved. There is no penalty for hiding in this course of action It requires something to hide behind. Even then the enemy are liable to know what square you are in etc. You can takes a full attck option, and a 5 foot step. You can attempt to "hide while attacking". This entails a -20 on your hide check. You still require somewhere to hide, and you must "not be observed". i.e. you must have been hidden before your attack. HipS Allows you to hide while being observed or while in cover. All it means is that you can hide in circumstances you might not normally be able to. It does NOT make it any easier to hide, just increases the possibilities of when you may hide. You still take -5 to move at full speed or -10 to run while hiding. Even using hide in plain sight. Overall The -20 still applies if he takes a full round attack If he takes one then he can hide at no penalty but not move Or he can take a single shot, hide at -20 and then move half his speed. Majere [/QUOTE]

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