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<blockquote data-quote="dr_nukem" data-source="post: 116775" data-attributes="member: 2253">I pretty much agree with that statement.&nbsp; Hide can be very powerful, the only thing that keeps it in check is the opposed spot check.&nbsp; Against normal opponents (humanoid), Hide is probably better than Invis.&nbsp; Against many monsters that receive a hefty racial bonus to Spot (satyr gets a +15 I think), Hide isn't nearly as effective.Given that, my current PC will become a 1st lvl SD at the start of our next session.&nbsp; He is basically ineffective in combat (low BAB and most of his magical items have to do with thieving, not fighting).&nbsp; His whole purpose in life is to get in, get whatever, and get out.&nbsp; So, this SD prestige class is perfect for him.I initially started asking questions and other threads to find out what the rules are around HiPS, Hide, and sneak attacks...hoping to make my PC a bit more effective in combat.&nbsp; As it stands now, I think he will be a bit more effective, but not too much.&nbsp; As several people have pointed out, against a single opponent, if that opponent is even slightly intelligent, it could figure a way to negate the SD abilities fairly quickly.&nbsp; However, within his party, I think he will become even more effective...if he can sidetrack one opponent into readying an action to catch him...he'll be more effective than he is now!&nbsp; :-&gt;Nukem</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dr_nukem, post: 116775, member: 2253"] I pretty much agree with that statement. Hide can be very powerful, the only thing that keeps it in check is the opposed spot check. Against normal opponents (humanoid), Hide is probably better than Invis. Against many monsters that receive a hefty racial bonus to Spot (satyr gets a +15 I think), Hide isn't nearly as effective. Given that, my current PC will become a 1st lvl SD at the start of our next session. He is basically ineffective in combat (low BAB and most of his magical items have to do with thieving, not fighting). His whole purpose in life is to get in, get whatever, and get out. So, this SD prestige class is perfect for him. I initially started asking questions and other threads to find out what the rules are around HiPS, Hide, and sneak attacks...hoping to make my PC a bit more effective in combat. As it stands now, I think he will be a bit more effective, but not too much. As several people have pointed out, against a single opponent, if that opponent is even slightly intelligent, it could figure a way to negate the SD abilities fairly quickly. However, within his party, I think he will become even more effective...if he can sidetrack one opponent into readying an action to catch him...he'll be more effective than he is now! :-> Nukem [/QUOTE]

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