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<blockquote data-quote="dr_nukem" data-source="post: 117031" data-attributes="member: 2253"><p>An interesting opinion. I wonder if the original intent of the feat was to HiPS against anything or just creatures without Lowlight or Darkvision. Seems to be kind of a waste if that's true...</p><p></p><p>If you opt for the interpretation that HiPS doesn't work vs LL or DV opponents, it severely limites the feat...severely.</p><p></p><p>Again, what's the purpose of the shadow? Does the SU ability require the shadow to hide in or to "feed" the power if you will. If you say that the SD needs the shadow to physically "hide" in, then I would agree that LL or DV would simply cancel this ability. (read, that would suck).</p><p></p><p>If the shadow is required as a source for the SU ability, and NOT to hide in, then LL or DV would have no affect on the ability. It's a supernature spell like ability. Does LL or DV work with the Darkness spell? Nope...If you went with this train of thought it wouldn't affect HiPS either.</p><p></p><p>You could also say that it's a SU ability and is not limited to the vision of the opponent...that just doesn't seem quite right though.</p><p></p><p>If you take option 1 then it's a very weak prestige class and not very cinematic. I believe option 2 is much more along the lines of what was originally intended...and then just poorly written/explained.</p><p></p><p>Oh yeah, what's this "considerable penalties" bit?</p><p></p><p>Nukem</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dr_nukem, post: 117031, member: 2253"] An interesting opinion. I wonder if the original intent of the feat was to HiPS against anything or just creatures without Lowlight or Darkvision. Seems to be kind of a waste if that's true... If you opt for the interpretation that HiPS doesn't work vs LL or DV opponents, it severely limites the feat...severely. Again, what's the purpose of the shadow? Does the SU ability require the shadow to hide in or to "feed" the power if you will. If you say that the SD needs the shadow to physically "hide" in, then I would agree that LL or DV would simply cancel this ability. (read, that would suck). If the shadow is required as a source for the SU ability, and NOT to hide in, then LL or DV would have no affect on the ability. It's a supernature spell like ability. Does LL or DV work with the Darkness spell? Nope...If you went with this train of thought it wouldn't affect HiPS either. You could also say that it's a SU ability and is not limited to the vision of the opponent...that just doesn't seem quite right though. If you take option 1 then it's a very weak prestige class and not very cinematic. I believe option 2 is much more along the lines of what was originally intended...and then just poorly written/explained. Oh yeah, what's this "considerable penalties" bit? Nukem [/QUOTE]
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