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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 117382" data-attributes="member: 1134"><p>Hide doesn't allow hiding while observed sure.  But if you can move and get out of direct view of the perosn observing you can hide, and if you use bluff you can cause a distraction and then hide.  The 1st one assuming 30' of movement is very easy in many environments, in cities etc, it may take a round or two but turn a corner, outside, duck behind trees, hills, bushes etc.  The 2nd well can be easy or tough, depending on the dm.  But assuming this version of bluff takes a standard aciton and is not somehow combined into one huge movement, bluff, and hide action al you do is bluff+move+hide at-10.  By the time any rogue I built was high enough level to be a shadow dancer neither, of those skill results would be below 20, which should be good enough under most circumstances.</p></blockquote><p></p>