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<blockquote data-quote="geezerjoe" data-source="post: 729072" data-attributes="member: 8603"><p>A character in our group has this supernatural ability from the ShadowDancer prestige class. The way he's been allowed to play the ability seems to make it more akin to perpetual invisibility than hiding, and in many ways I can see flaws with his thoughts on the ability, but in a few ways I can agree with him. So ... any help you might give me would be appriciated. (Note: In some ways this really isn't my problem, I'm not the current DM but feel like I need to help him (the DM) out as I have more experience.)</p><p></p><p>Some problems have already been dealt with ... for instance, hiding was being used basically as a free action. That has ended. </p><p></p><p>But the SD insists that if there is ANY shadow that he can hide within it. For example, the party approached a blighted out section of fields that was little more than sand just before high noon. The SD insisted that he would be able to hide in the shadow of one of his party members ... even if it were ten square inches. I found this funny and couldn't keep from laughing (though I didn't want too ... it really helps to have a perpetually invisible rogue in the party but some things go too far <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ) The DM said "No ... I don't think so". I've tried to find info supporting both DM and SD but haven't found much at all on hiding. Any suggestions?</p><p></p><p>Also ... I see this as an eventual problem. Next level, the SD gets a shadow companion and is suggesting that he will be able to hide within/beind it. I can't see a problem there but it feels ... abusive?!? wrong?!? and I know it's going to lead to other problems eventually ... such as shadow jumping between shadow creatures and such. </p><p></p><p>Any way, every week that I can keep this DM from chunking the shield is another week I get to play in a pretty good game vs dming a lousy one <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>thanks in advance</p><p></p><p>Joe Too Old</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="geezerjoe, post: 729072, member: 8603"] A character in our group has this supernatural ability from the ShadowDancer prestige class. The way he's been allowed to play the ability seems to make it more akin to perpetual invisibility than hiding, and in many ways I can see flaws with his thoughts on the ability, but in a few ways I can agree with him. So ... any help you might give me would be appriciated. (Note: In some ways this really isn't my problem, I'm not the current DM but feel like I need to help him (the DM) out as I have more experience.) Some problems have already been dealt with ... for instance, hiding was being used basically as a free action. That has ended. But the SD insists that if there is ANY shadow that he can hide within it. For example, the party approached a blighted out section of fields that was little more than sand just before high noon. The SD insisted that he would be able to hide in the shadow of one of his party members ... even if it were ten square inches. I found this funny and couldn't keep from laughing (though I didn't want too ... it really helps to have a perpetually invisible rogue in the party but some things go too far ;) ) The DM said "No ... I don't think so". I've tried to find info supporting both DM and SD but haven't found much at all on hiding. Any suggestions? Also ... I see this as an eventual problem. Next level, the SD gets a shadow companion and is suggesting that he will be able to hide within/beind it. I can't see a problem there but it feels ... abusive?!? wrong?!? and I know it's going to lead to other problems eventually ... such as shadow jumping between shadow creatures and such. Any way, every week that I can keep this DM from chunking the shield is another week I get to play in a pretty good game vs dming a lousy one ;) thanks in advance Joe Too Old [/QUOTE]
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