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<blockquote data-quote="RangerWickett" data-source="post: 1841094" data-attributes="member: 63">I've heard two camps in this discussion.&nbsp; One is Light-based, one is Sight-based.The Light-based camp says that a shadow is something where light doesn't make a place illuminated.The Sight-based camp says that a shadow is a place someone can't see because it's dark.In the light camp, it doesn't matter whether you have low-light vision, darkvision, or normal vision; if something is casting a shadow, or is completely dark because of the absence of light, then it's fair game for the shadowdancer to hide.In the sight camp, if the person try to look at the shadowdancer can see through an area clearly, then the shadows obviously don't affect them.&nbsp; Thus, a shadowdancer can't hide from a person with darkvision because to the person with darkvision there aren't any shadows.I prefer the light camp.&nbsp; To me, whether the shadow is there is not dependent upon the viewer, and all Hide in Plain Sight says is that it only works where there are shadows.&nbsp; It doesn't matter if you can see through shadows, because it's not actually shadows that are hiding the shadowdancer.&nbsp; The shadowdancer is &quot;hiding in plain sight.&quot;&nbsp; Thus, even if you ought to be able to see him, you can't, because he has the supernatural ability to hide when he shouldn't be able to.Edit to add:&nbsp; Therefore, true seeing does not negate Hide in Plain Sight.&nbsp; You can still see the person with a successful Spot check, though.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RangerWickett, post: 1841094, member: 63"] I've heard two camps in this discussion. One is Light-based, one is Sight-based. The Light-based camp says that a shadow is something where light doesn't make a place illuminated. The Sight-based camp says that a shadow is a place someone can't see because it's dark. In the light camp, it doesn't matter whether you have low-light vision, darkvision, or normal vision; if something is casting a shadow, or is completely dark because of the absence of light, then it's fair game for the shadowdancer to hide. In the sight camp, if the person try to look at the shadowdancer can see through an area clearly, then the shadows obviously don't affect them. Thus, a shadowdancer can't hide from a person with darkvision because to the person with darkvision there aren't any shadows. I prefer the light camp. To me, whether the shadow is there is not dependent upon the viewer, and all Hide in Plain Sight says is that it only works where there are shadows. It doesn't matter if you can see through shadows, because it's not actually shadows that are hiding the shadowdancer. The shadowdancer is "hiding in plain sight." Thus, even if you [i]ought[/i] to be able to see him, you can't, because he has the supernatural ability to hide when he shouldn't be able to. Edit to add: Therefore, true seeing does not negate Hide in Plain Sight. You can still see the person with a successful Spot check, though. [/QUOTE]

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