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Message: <blockquote data-quote="LifebaneSoulshadow" data-source="post: 1557587" data-attributes="member: 7475">You are correct, but I also know hide !=invisibility.  They are distinctly different.Giving the rogue the ability to completely vanish as if invisible in thin air if within 10' of a shadow (even if they are still right under my nose) is waaaaay powerful.I still feel the problem is that the ability as written allows for a lot of loopholes and not enough clarification about what is actually happening.  Is the SD really just disappearing as if hidden/invis and doesnt even more into the shadows within 10'?  What about in broad daylight (not noon so the sun isnt directly overhead--which means even in broad daylight there are some shadows about), in a forest with light vegetation, can a SD just move along 'invis'/hidden right up to the bad guy 50' away with only an opposed spot roll to see him?  Even if that vegetation wouldnt normally provide enough cover/concealment to do a regular hide check?  (we'll say it's really light vegetation)Heck they should have just called HIPS, invisibility and been done with it.  If that's what it is, it would have made understanding this ability much easier.  (something along the lines of, 'like the spell invisibility')</blockquote>